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Poll: Crystal/Caramel Malt Treatment (23 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you treat crystal malts in your grain bill?

  1. Mill and mash as a normal part of the grain bill. (23 votes [100.00%] - View)

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  2. Mill and cold steep, add liquor to kettle. (0 votes [0.00%])

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  3. Mill and steep at 155°F, add liquor to kettle. (0 votes [0.00%])

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  4. Other Method not listed, please explain. (0 votes [0.00%])

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  5. No Pants, I don't need no stinkin' crystal malts! (0 votes [0.00%])

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#21 miccullen

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:43 PM

Ok, that's what I'm looking for. Will note it.

try the British Chocolate malts


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 03:29 PM

I think you need some roasted coffee & chocolate flavors for a porter. You don't get much of that from MW.

Yes, but I was thinking more for color enhancement. Which really isnt needed because that will come from the other character malts. 


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 04:40 PM

Midnight wheat is one I'd love more feedback. I want to make a black ale but not bitter. A crystal for color only. But the end result is not bitter or chocolate or coffee etc... Is that M Wheat?
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 04:50 PM

Midnight wheat is one I'd love more feedback. I want to make a black ale but not bitter. A crystal for color only. But the end result is not bitter or chocolate or coffee etc... Is that M Wheat?

 

from what i've heard it would work.  carafa special would also work well.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 05:25 PM

Midnight wheat is one I'd love more feedback. I want to make a black ale but not bitter. A crystal for color only. But the end result is not bitter or chocolate or coffee etc... Is that M Wheat?

 

I bought MW just for making Black IpA. 


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#26 StankDelicious

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:21 PM

Midnight wheat is one I'd love more feedback. I want to make a black ale but not bitter. A crystal for color only. But the end result is not bitter or chocolate or coffee etc... Is that M Wheat?

 

 

I bought MW just for making Black IpA. 

 

I used it for a Black IPA as well. There is something mind bending about drinking a dark black beer and getting hopsmacked with no roastiness or bitterness.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:26 PM

Used Black Prinz & Midnight Wheat in a Black DIPA rye with good results.

 

Take the RB and put into a coffee grinder and add at end of mash ala Jamil.  Do it with chocolate too.  makes the flavor pop.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:56 PM

Used Black Prinz & Midnight Wheat in a Black DIPA rye with good results.

Wouldn't mind checking out this recipe.
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:29 PM

What's a coffee grinder got to do with it?
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:42 PM

What's a coffee grinder got to do with it?

getting a very fine powdered grind, I assume he means a blade grinder, not a real grinder


Edited by miccullen, 25 June 2014 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 07:44 AM

getting a very fine powdered grind, I assume he means a blade grinder, not a real grinder

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 08:11 AM

What does a fine powder grind do for you?
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Posted 26 June 2014 - 08:23 AM

What does a fine powder grind do for you?

I can only assume more complete extraction


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Posted 26 June 2014 - 09:30 AM

Wouldn't mind checking out this recipe.

I'll dig it out of the archives


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 06:13 AM

I can only assume more complete extraction

 

I guess. Still don't see the need for doing this. Sounds like more of a PIA than its worth. 


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:17 AM

I used it for a Black IPA as well. There is something mind bending about drinking a dark black beer and getting hopsmacked with no roastiness or bitterness.

I bought MW just for making Black IpA.

Just so I am clear, the MW imparted the "needed" black for a Black IPA but there is NO roast, bitter, coffee, chocolate? If so, may I ask what percentage to total bill was used. I too want that 'look' but if my eyes were closed it would taste just like any other 'normal' carameled IPA...
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:40 AM

Carafa III as well gives practically no flavor, just colorWell, actually all carafa is like that

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:43 AM

Carafa III as well gives practically no flavor, just colorWell, actually all carafa is like that

 

only the special.  to be fair at a high enough percentage in the right beer you can taste a little roast.  an IPA though?  probably not going to detect it.

 

https://www.weyerman...nue=0&sprache=2


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 01:33 PM

Just so I am clear, the MW imparted the "needed" black for a Black IPA but there is NO roast, bitter, coffee, chocolate? If so, may I ask what percentage to total bill was used. I too want that 'look' but if my eyes were closed it would taste just like any other 'normal' carameled IPA...

It turns out very black with little to no extra flavors. In my Black IPA's I use 1lb. at 6.5% of the grain bill. I recently just did my normal Black IPA recipe and swapped out the MW for Black Prinz. It's dry-hopping now, looking forward to see the difference.


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 01:37 PM

FWIW I recently used 9oz. each of Carafa Special III and MW in a Black Rye IPA. That was 6.8% of the grain bill. There was a very light roast flavor that was detectable but not at all off putting.


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