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[MtnBrewer]

it's saying all the baking soda in the mash.

Right, you don't want to add alkalinity to the sparge water. What target profile are you trying to create?

[Big Nake]

i just tried the bru'n water that ettels sent me he gets diff results.  he has the grains pretty much right on.  i updated the water to be my water and his additions work on his spreadsheet.  they don't work on the bru'n water spreadsheet i made.  not being familiar with it i don't know how to debug what my problem is. what's odd is that i've been nailing pH using kai's spreadsheet for the past year.  granted i don't make many stouts though.

Just so you know, we had a Bru'N'Water discrepancy awhile back where we couldn't get the pH to change no matter how large your additions (of anything) were. The macros were enabled, etc. and we were both (I think it was Ettels and I) seeing a problem with it. I'm not calling it a bug... it's very possible we were both overlooking something but it seemed unusual.

[neddles]

Guv, check your email, I think I have your problem fixed.

[neddles]

Just so you know, we had a Bru'N'Water discrepancy awhile back where we couldn't get the pH to change no matter how large your additions (of anything) were. The macros were enabled, etc. and we were both (I think it was Ettels and I) seeing a problem with it. I'm not calling it a bug... it's very possible we were both overlooking something but it seemed unusual.

Yeah I remember that. You had an older version of BrunWater if I remember that we just couldn't get to work right for some reason. I think Guv's problem is fixed. We'll see in a minute.

[positiveContact]

Guv, check your email, I think I have your problem fixed.

 

fixed in bru'n water yes.  unfortunately not fixed on my main spreadsheet

[neddles]

fixed in bru'n water yes.  unfortunately not fixed on my main spreadsheet

You mean Kai's?

[positiveContact]

how do i upload attachments?

[positiveContact]

You mean Kai's?

 

roger that.

[MtnBrewer]

how do i upload attachments?

Go to the full editor and right below the text box that you reply in there's an attachment thingy.

[positiveContact]

if anyone would like to take a look - just look at the "basic" tab to see what i'm inputting.

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[neddles]

Go to the full editor and right below the text box that you reply in there's an attachment thingy.

Does that work for photos too?

[MtnBrewer]

Does that work for photos too?

I think so but it's better to embed photos than attach them. Your attachment space is limited.

[MtnBrewer]

if anyone would like to take a look - just look at the "basic" tab to see what i'm inputting.

I see the water profile you created but where's the target water profile?

[positiveContact]

I see the water profile you created but where's the target water profile?

 

i just adjust the salts and look at the results.  i've never put in a target before.

[MtnBrewer]

i just adjust the salts and look at the results.  i've never put in a target before.

How do you know when it's right?

[neddles]

if anyone would like to take a look - just look at the "basic" tab to see what i'm inputting.

Yeah I'm not sure what's going on here. Sorry. Seems kinda bare bones in comparison to BrunWater. Also, while not applicable to your grist it doesn't seem to account for the most acidic grains like C120/Special B and the like. I know Kai developed a new water calculator in conjunction with Brewersfriend which is supposedly pretty nice but I have not first hand experience with it.

[positiveContact]

How do you know when it's right?

 

well first and foremost i shoot for the right pH.  that's easy enough.  after that i look to make sure my calcium is high enough.  if i'm making a hoppy beer i might make sure the sulfate levels are up there as well.  for most other beers i'm looking to make the minimum change possible.  at the very least it keeps a record of what i did and if i like the results i can replicate it.  if something seemed off i could ask if this or that aspect of the final composition should be higher or lower to get me the results i'd like.  i don't really try to match water profiles of brewing regions or anything.

[positiveContact]

Yeah I'm not sure what's going on here. Sorry. Seems kinda bare bones in comparison to BrunWater. Also, while not applicable to your grist it doesn't seem to account for the most acidic grains like C120/Special B and the like. I know Kai developed a new water calculator in conjunction with Brewersfriend which is supposedly pretty nice but I have not first hand experience with it.

 

true - the only crystal i have is C60 though.  everything else is pretty clearly base malt or roasted malt.

[positiveContact]

i guess i'm just surprised how off our answers are.  this is an order of magnitude.

[MtnBrewer]

well first and foremost i shoot for the right pH.  that's easy enough.  after that i look to make sure my calcium is high enough.  if i'm making a hoppy beer i might make sure the sulfate levels are up there as well.  for most other beers i'm looking to make the minimum change possible.  at the very least it keeps a record of what i did and if i like the results i can replicate it.  if something seemed off i could ask if this or that aspect of the final composition should be higher or lower to get me the results i'd like.  i don't really try to match water profiles of brewing regions or anything.

No, I wouldn't recommend that either. But I don't see how you can know you're done adjusting the water unless you've got some sort of idea of what water profile you want to end up with.