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#21 positiveContact

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 06:39 AM

Do you have an RO filter/system?

Edited by Mando, 06 May 2020 - 06:39 AM.


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 04:42 AM

No, I just go fill up at the local water store. 9 bucks for 15 gallons.  A little pricey, but worth it.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 08:41 AM

Whenever I use lactic things never quite go as predicted for me.  Initially the mash pH was really low (like 4.7) so I added in a little bit of baking soda and way over did it for probably 5 minutes, 10 minutes max.  I'm guessing the pH was probably somewhere around 6.  mash temp is 153-154F.  I added some more lactic and got it back down to 5.3.

 

 

Are you sure about that?  Going from 4.7 to 6 would take a ridiculous amount of baking soda.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 06:06 PM

Are you sure about that? Going from 4.7 to 6 would take a ridiculous amount of baking soda.


As sure as my colorphast strips are anyway lol. I saw a color on those strips I've never seen before.

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 06:45 PM

How much did you add?

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 07:04 PM

2.6g, then I added 1.25mL of lactic acid.

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 07:48 PM

When I punch the numbers into EZ Water it takes like 25+ grams for a 5 gallon batch to go from 4.7 to 6.



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 03:05 AM

When I punch the numbers into EZ Water it takes like 25+ grams for a 5 gallon batch to go from 4.7 to 6.

 

LOL.  I dunno what I was seeing then.  weird stuff.



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 12:11 PM

As sure as my colorphast strips are anyway lol. I saw a color on those strips I've never seen before.

Man, don't use those.  You're probably better off doing nothing.



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 12:55 PM

Man, don't use those.  You're probably better off doing nothing.

 

I dunno - they've at least reported something in the ballpark but yeah I agree that I should at least get a real meter.



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:00 PM

is omega still the go to for ph meter for homebrewers?



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:07 PM

is omega still the go to for ph meter for homebrewers?

Milwaukee MW102 seems very popular



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:54 PM

is omega still the go to for ph meter for homebrewers?

I have omega phh-7011 and love it.



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:43 PM

Milwaukee MW102 seems very popular


I had one and it was awful. So happy with my Omega.

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Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:54 PM

When I punch the numbers into EZ Water it takes like 25+ grams for a 5 gallon batch to go from 4.7 to 6.

2.6 g of NaHCO3 is 0.0309 mol of HCO3–... going from pH 4.7 to pH 6 in 19 L (i.e. ~5 gal) of water requires only 0.00036 mol of HCO3–. Jason are you sure EZ water isn't in milligrams? 



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:03 PM

2.6 g of NaHCO3 is 0.0309 mol of HCO3–... going from pH 4.7 to pH 6 in 19 L (i.e. ~5 gal) of water requires only 0.00036 mol of HCO3–. Jason are you sure EZ water isn't in milligrams?


I don't think it's as straightforward as 1:1 dissociation.

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 03:57 AM

I'm doing 10gal batches just so you guys know. And yeah, I think the response isn't linear even after accounting for the fact that pH is a logarithmic scale.

Edited by Mando, 09 May 2020 - 03:58 AM.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 04:02 AM

I have omega phh-7011 and love it.


Is the onega website the only source for these? I see they have 25% off right now.

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 04:44 AM

oh never mind, that's only for "remote" devices which this would not be since it's under a foot long :P


has that general pH meter been determined to be the same thing yet?


Edited by Mando, 09 May 2020 - 04:44 AM.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 05:01 AM

https://www.amazon.c...ting/B001TOFRIG




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