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Posted 08 April 2015 - 05:27 AM

Then relax and have some chinook/citra .. or pliny clone .. or that stout. 

 

damn!  are you living in my beer fridge?  :lol:



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Posted 08 April 2015 - 05:36 AM

damn!  are you living in my beer fridge?  :lol:

you know, it is a bit chilly in here. Oh and that bean dip is going bad!



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Posted 08 April 2015 - 05:40 AM

you know, it is a bit chilly in here. Oh and that bean dip is going bad!

 

I hate to tell you this... BUT THAT'S NOT BEAN DIP!!!



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Posted 08 April 2015 - 05:56 AM

I hate to tell you this... BUT THAT'S NOT BEAN DIP!!!

 

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 07:17 AM

the good news though is that even though it won't be exactly like the ayinger beer it's still clean and delicious :)



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Posted 08 April 2015 - 05:10 PM

clear damn you!  so something is missing compared to the real beer.  maybe a higher mash temp is required.  maybe decoction matters after all (if they even do one).  I'm not really sure how they achieved such richness and body.

Dark Munich is a possibility.



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 04:11 AM

Dark Munich is a possibility.

 

could be.



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 04:26 AM

could be.

I mentioned it as a probability for Augustiner, but that is a richer beer than this one. Maybe I underestimated the complexity of this one. 

 

Another thing I've found is that the malt flavors tend to pop more once the beer clears, so the flavor may become more complex, then. 



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:13 AM

I mentioned it as a probability for Augustiner, but that is a richer beer than this one. Maybe I underestimated the complexity of this one. 

 

Another thing I've found is that the malt flavors tend to pop more once the beer clears, so the flavor may become more complex, then. 

 

I'll make sure to report back.



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:39 AM

Which Munich did you use for this?



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 06:05 AM

Which Munich did you use for this?

 

best malz munich malt (regular, non-dark munich).

best malz pilsen

 

not sure what the caramunich was - maybe weyermann.

carafa special is obviously weyermann.



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Posted 10 April 2015 - 01:09 PM

I just moved the keg to the kitchen serving fridge.  it is getting better every time I try it.  one slightly disappointing aspect is the head retention is not great.  maybe my glass isn't clean enough but generally I don't have this issue.



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Posted 10 April 2015 - 03:07 PM

I just moved the keg to the kitchen serving fridge.  it is getting better every time I try it.  one slightly disappointing aspect is the head retention is not great.  maybe my glass isn't clean enough but generally I don't have this issue.

Any ideas why the head retention would be off? 



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 03:28 AM

Any ideas why the head retention would be off? 

 

i'm almost wondering if the beer was too cold when i had it in the chest freezer down stairs.  i did have it set to nearly freezing to help drop the yeast out.



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 07:51 AM

I think I was right.  Just poured a half pint and had a solid 1" of head on the beer.  nice and dense.  after a few sips it's dropped to about 1/3" but is still a nice head.

 

so PSA:  don't serve your beer ice cold (like I needed to tell you guys anyway).



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:05 AM

the warmer serving temp is really doing this beer some favors.  complexity is way up.  it's a lot closer to the real article than I thought.  despite the slight difference I don't think I'd be inclined to really mess with it.

 

one thing I might try is to just do the single infusion at maybe 151F and see what happens but I kind of suspect the difference would be minimal.  if there was a difference I didn't like the step by infusion actually went just fine so I wouldn't be against doing it again.



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:09 AM

I'll add that all you lager heads out there should give this recipe a try to see what you think.  This beer has ken written all over it.



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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:18 AM

Ill bet its delicious. Glad you are enjoying it. Ill echo your observations on serving temp. Other than BMC I dont know of any beer that tastes better under 40-45F. Post a pic when you get a chance.

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:22 AM

Ill bet its delicious. Glad you are enjoying it. Ill echo your observations on serving temp. Other than BMC I dont know of any beer that tastes better under 40-45F. Post a pic when you get a chance.

 

I took a couple of the beer for the purposes of showing the head.  it's still probably about 1 week away from being really clear although b/c of the dark color it may not matter much.

 

if I hold it up to the light I can see a dark red/brown but even perfectly clear I don't think you'll be able to see much through it.

 

eta:  need to upload pics


Edited by Evil_Morty, 11 April 2015 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:32 AM

httpss://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QWqgEwCZWPo/VSk97JmaDGI/AAAAAAAASLo/Z0zedbMbOoQ/w492-h739-no/DSC_0038-001.JPG

 

here is one that I upped the level of the picture.  I should have done it on the camera so please excuse the noise due to my post processing.  I was just trying to get something that showed the color:

httpss://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PMfhRtoc9As/VSk-IKBNe-I/AAAAAAAASLw/kKfLwutVo7w/w492-h739-no/DSC_0037-001.JPG




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