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#61 EWW

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:33 AM

would it be nuts to try this with a Belgian Yeast?

IF I were to consider this I'd use a saison strain

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:21 PM

IF I were to consider this I'd use a saison strain

Tripleberry Saison Braggot?



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:50 PM

Tripleberry Saison Braggot?

oh hell that kinda sounds good



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

oh hell that kinda sounds good

Sounds good for sure. Pulling it off might be tough. Meads like to be a little sweet and saison likes to be dry. Berries will need some sweetness depending on how heavy you go with them.


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Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:23 PM

The French saison strain will tolerate 12% ABV +/-Any ideas on the grain bill if we were to go this route? 60/40 pils and pale?

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:24 PM

Sounds good for sure. Pulling it off might be tough. Meads like to be a little sweet and saison likes to be dry. Berries will need some sweetness depending on how heavy you go with them.

We could always sorbate/sulfite it and back sweeten to a desired range

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:45 AM

I like this direction



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:23 PM

Since no one else is tossing out a rough recipe:60% - Pils39% - Wheat 1% - Cara-Pils 8 lb - Honey (Add after boil)2 pkg - French Saison Wyeast Labs #371110-15 lbs fruit/berry of choice (cherry, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry, etc)I haven't plugged it in the spreadsheet, but ithink we should aim for around around 1.113 OG total

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:04 PM

I would ditch carapils.  If any specialty, I would go with honey malt.  I will also not be using whole fruit.  I just racked off a cherry beer and the amount of loss made me very sad.  Juice all the way for me.  I like this though.  3711 is one of my favorite yeasts and I have used it dozens of times.  



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:17 AM

I would ditch carapils.  If any specialty, I would go with honey malt.  I will also not be using whole fruit.  I just racked off a cherry beer and the amount of loss made me very sad.  Juice all the way for me.  I like this though.  3711 is one of my favorite yeasts and I have used it dozens of times.

I'm ok with ditching the cara.What do others think of juice vs fruit vs concentrate?

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:53 AM

Juice Vs Concertrate.... Ok here it goes... I was looking for a nice organic apple juice concertrate to enhance a cyser. Wow, Some of the apple juice at the major stores is made in CHINA! Look at the label and where its from carefully and you should be OK. I ended up at Whole Foods and they had a nice organic apple juice concertrate from Washington state. I bought a few of them and mixed one up to taste. Tasted really good so I'll finish it and save the other for my cyser.

Most bottled juice is made from frozen concertate, unless stated otherwise. Avoid the middle process.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:17 AM

Juice is fine by me. It just needs to be a quality juice and not from concentrate IMO. Knudsen's Just Juices or something in that vein.



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:21 AM

Knudsens was the route I was thinking.  If there is a quality concentrate I would be fine with that too.  



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 11:15 AM

Knudsens was the route I was thinking.  If there is a quality concentrate I would be fine with that too.  

https://www.rwknudse...y.com/about/faq



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:08 PM

I was looking at the juice and the only ones from Knudsens that are NOT from concentrate are.

 

Papaya NectarNatural AppleCider & SpiceJust Black CherryJust PomegranateOrganic Just Concord Grape

 

 

Makes it best to still squeeze your own if you can



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:58 PM

Knudsens was the route I was thinking.  If there is a quality concentrate I would be fine with that too.

Would oregon purée or a homemade purée be an option you're willing to consider for some/all of the fruit additions? A purée should decrease losses...I think

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:20 AM

Perhaps I could go along with that.  I have an immersion blender that I could use to make my own puree but I am always a little freaked out by difficulty to sanitize.  If anyone is thinking of trying the vintner's harvest cherries, I would advise against it.  They don't have much sweetness or cherry flavor.  I have two big cans of the blackberries, hopefully they are better.   I bought them for a different mel that I will have going shortly.  Maybe I will puree them. 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 06:21 AM

Perhaps I could go along with that.  I have an immersion blender that I could use to make my own puree but I am always a little freaked out by difficulty to sanitize.  If anyone is thinking of trying the vintner's harvest cherries, I would advise against it.  They don't have much sweetness or cherry flavor.  I have two big cans of the blackberries, hopefully they are better.   I bought them for a different mel that I will have going shortly.  Maybe I will puree them.

Campden tabsFor fruit I also find bagging them works well but I realize that not everyone has a SS container with a large opening

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

Just ordered the 3711.  Thinking about this:

6  lbs pale malt

.5 lb special B

.5 lb wheat

7  lbs honey

1  oz Brewers Gold for 60

Should have an OG of 1.090. 

 

Secondary addition:

8 lbs blueberries, picked last weekend. 

4 lbs blackberries, picked this morning - damn things are big around as my thumb.

1 or 2 ounces Cascade dry hopped



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:36 PM

Hi, I'm a bit confused... ( yeah thats another story )

 

Anyway I thought a group brew was we ALL brew and use the same recipe. Am I delusional?

would be nice to all make a batch and give it a speacial group name. like "Brew Brothers BleuBerry" 2013 vintage.

guidance for and old newbie is requested.

 

Here is what I have seen suggested.

 

Peach - Ginger

Cherry - many times

Cherry with Choclate

Blueberry

Tripple berry - interesting

French Saison Wyeast Labs #3711 seems favored

 

Blueberry / cherry season is here.

 

Strawberries and Raspberries.... Strasberry ... is that a word? Man they taste good combined as a fruit.




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