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[weave]

Brewery Ommegang is owned by Duvel. Not sure that counts as a macro tho.

[BikeBrewer]

A lot of people were up in arms about the Sleeman/Unibroue deal. As far as I can tell, Unibroue's beers are as good as ever.

It didn't bother me when Sleeman bought up Unibroue and Upper Canada, but I'm not thrilled to have to buy beer that's lining the pockets of the Japanese. They haven't changed the beers at all, which is good, but I'd rather support local craft brewers and Canadian companies first.

[pods8]

I've done the tour probably 5 or 6 time in the past year and I've never experienced the answering questions for free stuff. Is this only a certain day of the week?

I am talking about the woodinville brewery not the east coast one.

[Brian72]

I think Basser told me that Sierra Nevada is a subsidiary or Coors...

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I am talking about the woodinville brewery not the east coast one.

Doh - missed your location

[Kansan]

I think Basser told me that Sierra Nevada is a subsidiary or Coors...

Wouldn't that be a sad day. Sierra Nevada is still owned by one of the co-founders, Ken Grossman who has held the reigns since 1979. Molson-Coors has done an excellent job with The Blue Moon series in trying to disassociate themselves with the label though. That brand is quickly sweeping towards the top selling craft beer list in America. Now that it is Miller-Coors lots of advertising dollars are going to be put behind the brand this year. We'll see if their little darling will keep its "craft" feel with a huge multi media campaign.

[MolBasser]

I think Basser told me that Sierra Nevada is a subsidiary or Coors...

'dems fightin' words.BrewBasser

[zymot]

Yeah, I used to like Redhook. Then I found out that they are associated with Bud. Now their ESB sucks!Sierra Nevada is pretty big these days. How much more bigger do they need to get to sell to qualify as "Mega Swill"?

[MolBasser]

Yeah, I used to like Redhook. Then I found out that they are associated with Bud. Now their ESB sucks!Sierra Nevada is pretty big these days. How much more bigger do they need to get to sell to qualify as "Mega Swill"?

We can get as big as we want, because we make good beer.Size had nothing to do with quality.(sorry Connie).BrewBasser

[zymot]

We can get as big as we want, because we make good beer.Size had nothing to do with quality.(sorry Connie).BrewBasser

Exactly my point

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

We can get as big as we want, because we make good beer.Size had nothing to do with quality.(sorry Connie).BrewBasser

Correct - both large and small breweries can make great and crappy beer.

[jwatkins56550]

I don't really have a problem with the concept of a mega-brewer buying a micro. If it was a micro I loved and they messed with the recipes, I'd be disappointed and would stop buying those products. But so far I don't see that becoming a widespread issue. A lot of people were up in arms about the Sleeman/Unibroue deal. As far as I can tell, Unibroue's beers are as good as ever.One nice benefit of these arrangements is that at many sporting venues, you can finally get a half-way decent beer! I usually knock back a few Redhook ESBs at the Blackhawks games. $7 for a Bud Light, $7.75 for Redhook... hmmm.... which one should I buy??What does bother me is when one of the big guys tries to pass off some of their products as "craft" beer. Blue Moon and all of its varients/flavors. Leinenkugels (which used to be a decent regional brewer), Michelob Amber Bock, etc... I suspect they turn many people away from good craft beer when they "try this fancy micro brew out" and realize they don't like it. I think I'm in a surly mood right now... if you happen to like those beers, please do not take my opinion personally. I won't hold it against you

I love the fact that I get a nice ESB at Panthers games!!!

[Jimvy]

Goose is only affiliated with A/B for distribution. They are autonomous to themselves otherwise.

I don't think this is true. It's been a while and I didn't go back and look it up, but I remember having discussions a while back of the head brewer up in Chicago being let go and AB bringing in their own guy.

[MAZ]

I don't think this is true. It's been a while and I didn't go back and look it up, but I remember having discussions a while back of the head brewer up in Chicago being let go and AB bringing in their own guy.

No disrespect intended, but unless you can cite something other than "discussions a while back" I don't think your statement holds water (or beer for that matter).The Goose Island / AB deal is about distribution. AB owns 40% of Widmer, and Widmer now owns about 40% of GI. There are many news stories that covered this...https://www.redorbit...will/index.htmlhttps://chicagoist.c...eer_company.phpJohn Hall is still the owner and chief executive. Greg Hall is still the head brewmaster. This is really old news.In more recent developments, GI brought in a new executive chef to revive the main brewpub's food offerings...https://www3.timeout...s-for-goose-20/And they've also release a couple new American wild ales to augment their Reserve line and a new Brewpub Heritage Collection so we can now buy a few classics that were once only available at the pub...https://www.chicagot...0,1110959.storyhttps://www.gooseisl...llection/30.php

[Jimvy]

No disrespect intended, but unless you can cite something other than "discussions a while back" I don't think your statement holds water (or beer for that matter).

None taken...and I appreciate the info you posted. I know I saw something via email or forum about one of their brewers being removed, but it could have been in one of the pubs or perhaps was misinformation altogether.

[MAZ]

None taken...and I appreciate the info you posted. I know I saw something via email or forum about one of their brewers being removed, but it could have been in one of the pubs or perhaps was misinformation altogether.

They do have 3 operations going, so that definitely could be the case... the original Clybourn St brewpub, the Wrigleyville brewpub, and the Fulton St brewery. I'll see if I can dig up anything on that. Cheers!

[Bearphin]

The place to try Blue Moon in it's real original basis is at a Colorado Rockies game. The Sand Lot Brewry at Coors Field is the original home of Blue Moon White Ale. They actually came up with the recipe there and then started to mass produce it at the Golden Brewery.Always liked having a seriously good "micro brewery" at the ball park. Many a times I went to a game and never left the Sand Lot!!!

[Slainte]

I don't mind if a micro is partially owned by a macro...that has absolutely NO influence on my purchase decisions as a consumer.Good beer is good beer.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Good beer is good beer.

Amen.

[davelew]

While we're at it, I believe Pilsener Urquell is owned by SABMiller.