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[cavman]

Is that the one from the thread on the green board?

His second recipe is the one from the greenboard. This one: Target Gravity 1.065 with 65 IBU's My grain bill will be......... 65% - 2 row (American Style Malt from Muntons) 30% - Munich Type I (Weyermanns) 5% - Crystal 60L * I BREW 10 GALLON BATCHES SO HALVE FOR 5 GALS. * I assume 77% efficiency. ******************************** DALES PALE ALE ********************************** 16.75 lbs 2 row 8 lbs Munich 1.4 lbs Crystal 60L 2 oz Northern Brewer 60 mins (22.8 IBUs) 1 oz Cascade 30 mins (7 IBUs) .5 oz columbus 30 mins (10.4 IBUs) 1 oz Centennial 15 mins (8.2 IBUs) .75 oz Columbus 15 Mins (9.7 IBUs) 1 oz Cascade 5 mins (1.8 IBU's) 1 oz Columbus 5 mins (5.2 IBU's) Wyeast 1272 American Ale II

[MtnBrewer]

Thanks much!

[Jimmy James]

From my recollection of that thread the first recipe posted here is the correct clone that was posted by the guy that actually brewed it first at Oskar Blues. It has a ton of xtal malt and some Munich. The second one does not have nearly enough xtal malt. Then again, I haven't brewed any of these recipes yet. I have it (the 1st recipe) on my schedule though, and should get around to it sometime soon. I never saw on the other board that anybody actually brewed that recipe and posted feedback as to how close it was to the real deal.

[HVB]

I cant imagine 1272 in this beer either.....

I agree, on the Can you brew it episode for Grodon they pretty much say they use chico for Gordon and I cannot imagine they would use something different for Dale's

[Jimmy James]

The original post which was supposedly by the original brewer/formulator on the other board listed WLP001.

[Daryl]

I made a version of the first recipe listed here with us05 and it came out pretty close to the real deal. very tastey. If anyone is interested, I will dig out and post the exact recipe I used.

[Jimmy James]

I'd love to see that recipe. This is still one of my favorite beers. I am going to brew a slightly different version coming up with the grain and hop bill from the first recipe in this thread and use a big slurry of Kolsch yeast I have around to see how it turns out.

[siouxbrewer]

I'd love to see that recipe. This is still one of my favorite beers. I am going to brew a slightly different version coming up with the grain and hop bill from the first recipe in this thread and use a big slurry of Kolsch yeast I have around to see how it turns out.

So thats where the kolsch pitch will end up Not a bad idea. I've got a big pitch of 1007 in the pipeline, may end up being my pale yeast for the time being.

[Jimmy James]

So thats where the kolsch pitch will end up Not a bad idea. I've got a big pitch of 1007 in the pipeline, may end up being my pale yeast for the time being.

I'll definitely post an update with how it turns out. I plan to use the Kolsch yeast a few times and play around with it a bit. The board had a lot of good ideas and I happen to be in need of an IPA soon - been ages since I brewed one and I've got the jones! OT a bit, but anyone had the "Gubna" or whatever that new beer is from Oskar Blues? A friend in CO picked up some but I haven't heard how he liked it yet.

[Jimmy James]

Well, I brewed this up and fermented with WLP029 and just tapped the first keg last night. It's awesome. I didn't have a can of Dale's around to do the side-by-side but based on memory it's very close, even with the WLP029, which to me is very similar to 001/1056. In fact, if anything I'd say the 029 (Kolsch Ale) yeast is like an even slightly cleaner version of Cali-Ale that accentuates hops just as much if not more, although granted I used more hops than the recipe may have called for. Basically I brewed the recipe back in the beginning of the thread but bumped the Munich a little and subbed 1.5 lbs of C40 for the 3 lbs of C30. I also bittered with Chinook and used a heavy hand on the Cascade, Columbus and Cent additions - something like 2 oz each for all 4 hop additions. I think it ended up about like this:18 lbs 2-row2 lbs Munich1.5 lbs C-401 lb C-202 oz Chinook 60 min2 oz Cascade 20 min2 oz Columbus 10 min2 oz Centennial whirlpoolWLP029 slurryI definitely am going to use this yeast for more IPAs in the future.

[Spoon]

Well, I brewed this up and fermented with WLP029 and just tapped the first keg last night. It's awesome. I didn't have a can of Dale's around to do the side-by-side but based on memory it's very close, even with the WLP029, which to me is very similar to 001/1056. In fact, if anything I'd say the 029 (Kolsch Ale) yeast is like an even slightly cleaner version of Cali-Ale that accentuates hops just as much if not more, although granted I used more hops than the recipe may have called for. Basically I brewed the recipe back in the beginning of the thread but bumped the Munich a little and subbed 1.5 lbs of C40 for the 3 lbs of C30. I also bittered with Chinook and used a heavy hand on the Cascade, Columbus and Cent additions - something like 2 oz each for all 4 hop additions. I think it ended up about like this: 18 lbs 2-row 2 lbs Munich 1.5 lbs C-40 1 lb C-20 2 oz Chinook 60 min 2 oz Cascade 20 min 2 oz Columbus 10 min 2 oz Centennial whirlpool WLP029 slurry I definitely am going to use this yeast for more IPAs in the future.

If I can get my hands on some Munich then I am going to knock out a 10gal batch this coming weekend

[Jimmy James]

If I can get my hands on some Munich then I am going to knock out a 10gal batch this coming weekend

Just had a couple pints of this one last night. You won't be disappointed. Do you have the NB hops or will you bitter with something else? I used the Chinook and am happy with the results. Be sure to post back with what recipe you end up going with and how it turns out.

[Spoon]

I didn't have the Munich I needed so I placed an order real fast w/ Brewmasters Warehouse should be here anytime. I haven't looked at my hops but I am sure I have some several of the C hops on hand, at the minimum. I'll post the grain bill tonight though.

[Spoon]

This is what my Grain bill is going to look like. Let me know what you think about the hop schedule. All I have is NB, Centennial, aand Amarillo Stats OG 1.065 FG 1.016 IBU 67 ABV 6.3 % SRM 12 Specifics Boil Volume 14 gallons Batch Size 11 gallons Yeast 75% AA Style Comparison Low High OG 1.046 1.065 1.065 FG 1.011 1.016 1.020 IBU 30 67 65 SRM 6 12 14 ABV 4.4 6.3 6.2 Fermentables Weight(lbs) Grain Gravity Points 18.00 American Two-row Pale 45.4 3.50 American Munich (Light) 7.9 3.00 American Crystal 40L 7.0 2.00 American Crystal 20L 4.8 26.50 65.0 Hops Weight (oz) Hop Form Boil Time Utilization IBU 2.00 Northern Brewer Whole 60 0.228 21.5 2.00 Northern Brewer Whole 30 0.176 16.5 2.00 Centennial Whole 20 0.138 19.8 1.50 Centennial Whole 10 0.083 8.9 9.50 66.6

[Jimmy James]

Looks awesome! How'd the sesh go? Did you add in any of the Amarillo? They could have played nice in there as a late addition, but if you didn't have the Columbus then the hop schedule you went with is probably as close as you can get. Looking forward to hear how this turns out.

[Spoon]

I skipped the Amarillo I overused this one in the past so I just did the NB and Centennial. I lost track of time and over boiled so I didn't collect the 10 I was shooting for but it is tastey :frank:Here are my notes taken:First taste going into the kettle was good, not really grainy, nice and nice malty profile. Not overly sweet. Doughed in w/ 8 gallons held @ 152*F for 60 minutes. Boil volume was 12 gallons, 80 min boil, collected 8 gallons.1.069 going into the kettle.1.073 going into the fermenter.Sample going into the fermemnter was nice and malty but balanced with a citusy bite on the finish. Nice burnt orange color.Pitched 4L of Safeale 05 starter 730pm.It is chugging away with a full krousen this AM.

[Daryl]

Here is the version I made. Came out pretty close. I havent done a side by side yet, but I am very happy with it. Sorry for the delay in posting it. Dales Pale Ale CloneA ProMash Recipe ReportRecipe Specifics----------------Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00Total Grain (Lbs): 12.50Anticipated OG: 1.067 Plato: 16.27Anticipated SRM: 11.6Anticipated IBU: 82.3Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %Wort Boil Time: 60 MinutesGrain/Extract/Sugar % Amount Name Origin Potential SRM----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 76.0 9.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2 12.0 1.50 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40 6.0 0.75 lbs. Crystal 20L America 1.035 20 6.0 0.75 lbs. Munich Malt(light) America 1.033 10Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.Hops Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.20 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 8.90 48.6 60 min. 1.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 6.30 11.6 25 min. 1.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 8.00 9.7 15 min. 1.00 oz. Columbus Pellet 13.70 12.5 10 min.Extras Amount Name Type Time-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.00 Tsp Irish Moss Fining 30 Min.(boil) 0.00 Tsp Super Ferment Other 15 Min.(boil) Yeast----- US-05 Safale US-05

[Daryl]

Ok, I finally did a side by side. I think I came pretty close, dales has a more of a bitter finish, while mine has a slightly sweeter finish. I am happy with the way mine came out.

[Jimmy James]

Ok, I finally did a side by side. I think I came pretty close, dales has a more of a bitter finish, while mine has a slightly sweeter finish. I am happy with the way mine came out.

Good stuff. I think you went a little higher on the xtal malts than I did, but I feel like Dale's is somewhat sweet and the original recipe called for a healthy amount of those malts. Perhaps they got a little more attenuation at Oskar Blue's than you did but who knows your base and specialty malts may have been a little different from what they used to. I was planning on bumping the xtal malts a little next time so maybe I'll go somewhere between your recipe and the one I brewed.