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#61 Deerslyr

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 12:55 PM

Hey a man can dream can't he? You never know, business opportunities start like this all the time, my luck has got to pay off sooner or later. I do believe in the definition of luck as- the moment preparation meets opprtunity. My business plan is 1/2 written and my concepts are easy to convey. Dosnt mean I am going to sit around and wait for every lottery winner to pitch my ideas to, however I will definitely follow up on this one!

Absolutely no ban on dreams. I have a feeling that 99% of us would LOVE to be brewing. I know I dream of it. I was in Wisconsin a few weeks ago driving through farmland and wondering how much land I would need to be self sufficient at growing barley! A pipe dream for me for sure, but hey... it sure beat thinking about working in an office building in Northern California. But if I were you, I'd be following up with that Lotto winner... I had a guy once tell me that JOB stood for "Just Over Broke". Do you just want a job? Or do you want to do something you love. Most of us are in jobs, wishing for more. I sincerely hope you can find a way.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:03 PM

another friend said it wasn't over carbonated

Is that a nice way of saying, I don't really like that much but I can drink it cuz it's got alcohol in it? If you want to be a real punk, when they ask what that flavor is... tell them it's BEER.As for being a beer snob, I normally never return a beer, I just don't drink it and get something else if something is wrong with it. Well, I was out with my friend at basically a college bar, he's nothing but BMC, 50 cent drafts is why they like to go here and 50 cents drafts is probably why they taste bad. One was so solventy I couldn't drink it, and my friend is the one who got it swapped out for me, so I asked for a Sam next. I can't remember the off flavor in that one, but it was a more common spoiler. Cheap places like that, I just go for bottles now. The beer might be fresh in the keg, but it's passing through some nasty stuff on the way to my glass, so I'll take the pastuerized bottle please.

Hey a man can dream can't he? You never know, business opportunities start like this all the time, my luck has got to pay off sooner or later. I do believe in the definition of luck as- the moment preparation meets opprtunity. My business plan is 1/2 written and my concepts are easy to convey. Dosnt mean I am going to sit around and wait for every lottery winner to pitch my ideas to, however I will definitely follow up on this one!

Keep dreaming man, it's where ideas come from. And yeah, totally take advantage of someone with a sudden influx of more money than they know what to do with. (How's that for bad grammar & style, started with a conjunction, changed the singular someone to a plural they and ended it off with a preposition). I'm totally with you, getting lucky is putting yourself in a position to have it.

Edited by chuck_d, 28 July 2009 - 01:04 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:06 PM

I had a guy once tell me that JOB stood for "Just Over Broke". Do you just want a job? Or do you want to do something you love. Most of us are in jobs, wishing for more. I sincerely hope you can find a way.

+1 Like a lot of us I sometimes dream about brewing for a living. I'd be making a lot less money but I would be doing something fun. My only fear is that if I had to do it, would it still be fun?

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:15 PM

+1 Like a lot of us I sometimes dream about brewing for a living. I'd be making a lot less money but I would be doing something fun. My only fear is that if I had to do it, would it still be fun?

Let's let CJ and Basser answer that one! I would like to think that I'd be oblivious and just "happy go lucky" thrilled to be there all the time.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:22 PM

I think it depends. Brewing for someone else is still a job. I think the more popular dream is best suited to owning the brewery.Good luck Thirsty! I'll buy a pint.

Is that a nice way of saying, I don't really like that much but I can drink it cuz it's got alcohol in it? If you want to be a real punk, when they ask what that flavor is... tell them it's BEER.

I think my roommate tried to explain how my first batch undercarbed and his phrase didn't come out right. They aren't the most intelligent bunch to begin with and when you add few beers to that they all need helmets!Cheers,Rich

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:01 PM

I don't really know any BMC drinkers. The parties I go to have coolers full of micros. When friends taste my homebrew, they are familiar enough with American style ales that they compare the homebrew with micros they've had, not with BMC beers, and they ask intelligent questions because they are genuinely curious about beer.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:04 PM

I think my roommate tried to explain how my first batch undercarbed and his phrase didn't come out right. They aren't the most intelligent bunch to begin with and when you add few beers to that they all need helmets!Cheers,Rich

Judging by how my head hurt after my friend's birthday party I should have worn a helment on Saturday night. Love the new avatar.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:36 PM

To defend your friend's inability to descibe taste. I t takes practices and perception to descibe flavors, they probably don't know the vocabulary and they probably don't know the styles.I had someone say that a pale ale tasted like guinness... if your only frame of references are BMC and the Guinness that you drank last St Patrick's day, then that is probably the best they can do. I would be amazed if someone with limited background to taste an american pale ale and suddenly said "graininess with a hint of caramel and a grapefruity hop flavor. Just because they don't know how to put words to theirs observation doesn't mean the don't apprieciate the beer.Most people are not experts or even knowledgable in everything

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:45 PM

I had someone say that a pale ale tasted like guinness... if your only frame of references are BMC and the Guinness that you drank last St Patrick's day, then that is probably the best they can do.

I had a stout at the judging last weekend that tasted like a pale ale but I'd think it would be harder to pull off going the other direction. :goodidea:

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:52 PM

+1 Like a lot of us I sometimes dream about brewing for a living. I'd be making a lot less money but I would be doing something fun. My only fear is that if I had to do it, would it still be fun?

Since Drew is still working at the small brewpub I think it's still a bit of fun. All he has to do is go upstairs and can get immediate feedback from the customers. Not quite the same though when he's working at Schlafly.BTW, on of the mainstays at Mattingly, the small brewpub, is a cream ale. Actually pretty tasty, and there's not much room to hide any defects. It has a time and place at least for me.

Edited by dj in kc, 28 July 2009 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 04:25 PM

Since Drew is still working at the small brewpub I think it's still a bit of fun. All he has to do is go upstairs and can get immediate feedback from the customers. Not quite the same though when he's working at Schlafly.BTW, on of the mainstays at Mattingly, the small brewpub, is a cream ale. Actually pretty tasty, and there's not much room to hide any defects. It has a time and place at least for me.

He's in a good situation. I agree the brewpub scenario is probably the best for the amount of freedom you have...especially if you happen to own it too.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:00 PM

How many pounds of grain for a 5 gal batch? I think I'm gonna try it.Cheers,Rich

Posted my recipe in the Recipe Swap forum. Should be easy to find.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:12 PM

Sweet!So I thought of a name for this beer. Easy drinking. My buddies and girls might like it too, so....GSB Cream AleGonna See Boobies Cream Ale :) But obviously Deerslyr has the right to approve or reject it...-Rich

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:18 PM

Sweet!So I thought of a name for this beer. Easy drinking. My buddies and girls might like it too, so....GSB Cream AleGonna See Boobies Cream Ale :) But obviously Deerslyr has the right to approve or reject it...-Rich

LMFAO, but lemmee sleep on it.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:54 PM

Take it easy, I'm just clowning on you guys. I thought the use of the word pallet was pretty funny and then when stellar used "gambit" it was too good to pass up.

+1As a former Master strength Chess player the use of gambit was funny to me.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 07:23 AM

+1As a former Master strength Chess player the use of gambit was funny to me.

*Laughs maniacally as you all fall victim to his gambit to rule the world by making your faces wrinkly* :)

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:26 AM

Sweet!So I thought of a name for this beer. Easy drinking. My buddies and girls might like it too, so....GSB Cream AleGonna See Boobies Cream Ale :) But obviously Deerslyr has the right to approve or reject it...-Rich

I think I'm gonna reject it and go with "Two Barbarians NFP Cream Ale No. 2". I had to dump a wheat beer last night that I ruined by using plums in the secondary. I even used metabisulfate per instructions to get rid of the wild crap... well, let's just say it wasn't even suitable to make vinegar out of. It's the first batch that I'd ever had to dump. So now that I'm 5 gallons behind and was needing to do another 5 anyways, I'm thinking of doing 10 gallons of my Cream Ale. What does the "NFP" stand for you ask???NoFuc*ingPlums!(Two Barbarians is the name of my "brewery", and I still want to keep the No. 2 moniker on it)

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:55 PM

I know it's not for everyone. We all have our likes and dislikes, but for some reason in the homebrewing community it's the red headed step child. Is it because there is a perception that it's just a notch above BMC? Or is it too simple? You just don't see (m)any threads about guys getting all excited for a good Cream Ale.

I'll be honest I think some of the best beers are simple in ingredients. My last brew was Pils malt and magnum hops with WL german lager yeast and thats it. There is not a simple list than that. I expect it to over well with anyone who drinks lager on a regular basis, (maybe a bit more bitter at 33 IBUS) ;). But, I didnot brew it for anyone in peticular, I brewed it to see how simple I can get and still make an excellent beer.


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