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[djinkc]

I use Gr. Mags exclusivity.Ive never had your issue. I did get some weird flavors from it when I used them late and dry hop when the original SN Torpedo clone came out. But never at 60 or even 30.

Yeah, I wouldn't say they ruined the beer here but...... I've used them late when I had really low alpha hops for late additions. And then tried Magnums in the mix for the late additions so I didn't get grass by throwing in a pound or so of the low AA hops. Not really offensive but they didn't work great. Actually, I kind of like their aroma. Anyway, Mags won't go in my stuff after 30 minutes anymore. Still a great hop for what it is.

[BlKtRe]

Then we're just disagreeing on the semantics of house flavor. I understand.

So you are saying house flavor can come from, in this case, old hops? Will this house flavor be there with fresher hops using the same styles and recipes? I

[BlKtRe]

If I am understanding him correctly, the house flavor is a negative and he is trying to figure out if is the old magnum hops. So it won't be there if he uses the fresher hops.I understand what you're saying. I don't think I'm getting my point across effectively.

To me a old batch of hops isnt a house flavor. Its just old hops making a few batches taste a little off. If you keep up with fresh ingredients and storage, techniques are the same from batch to batch, yeast and fermentation handling are the same then this can lead to a house flavor. But I think I understand your point......

[al_bob]

Columbus or Chinook for me. I've had some IPA's that have had a house flavor lately and I've been thinking it could be due to old hops. I bought at the way end of the season and some looked lees than stellar. Some smelled less than stellar, too.

[BarelyBrews]

Mostly Columbus for me as well, i have used the Chinook and Northern Brewer in the past.And good Topic by the way.

[Big Nake]

I would agree that "old hops" might not fall under the category of house flavor unless you consistenly use old hops or your method of hop storage is subpar. My definition of "house flavor" would be something that is unknown or out of your control and that others taste but you do not... or it has to be brought to your attention by others. I mention water (duh) because I'm Ken ( ) but also because water is often overlooked and someone trying to make a style that does not work with their water could be screaming HOUSE FLAVOR! from the hilltops and not know why.

[Poptop]

GR Perle for me unless I'm heading for the citrus face bunch, then Super Galena.

[chadm75]

Columbus and Northern Brewer for me. Hallertau in my English style ales/lagers.

[positiveContact]

Columbus and Northern Brewer for me. Hallertau in my English style ales/lagers.

the hallertau is interesting. i've used it exclusively in continental european style beers.

[SchwanzBrewer]

Schwanz, do you use 5.2 PH Stabilizer by any chance. I've read that it can give a soapy/salty taste to beer.

no.Only additives I use are potassium metabisulphite to get rid of chloramine (which it's possible I forgot to add on those batches), and occasionally I will add some gypsum or something else dependent on the style.

[MtnBrewer]

Chloramine would give you more of a band aid phenolic flavor so I don't think that's the issue.

[SchwanzBrewer]

Chloramine would give you more of a band aid phenolic flavor so I don't think that's the issue.

plastic was noted.

[MtnBrewer]

Possibility then.

[denny]

I brew mainly domestic styles like APA and AIPA and Magnum is just too mellow for my tastes. I like it (and Horizon) for Belgian and German styes where the bittering should be more integrated, but for domestic styles it just doesn't do it for me. I prefer Columbus, Chinook, or something like that for those.

[MtnBrewer]

I brew mainly domestic styles like APA and AIPA and Magnum is just too mellow for my tastes. I like it (and Horizon) for Belgian and German styes where the bittering should be more integrated, but for domestic styles it just doesn't do it for me. I prefer Columbus, Chinook, or something like that for those.

Denny, just curious. Have you tried Bravo in those styles? If so, what's your take?

[denny]

Denny, just curious. Have you tried Bravo in those styles? If so, what's your take?

Tried Bravo about 2-3 years back. I guess I must not have been too impressed since I don't recall much about them and haven't used them since!