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#41 beach

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:32 PM

When did this become the beer forum?Moved

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:38 PM

The foreign extra stout is I guess not being brought in anymore in favor of the Black Lager. If you think Guinness started to suck, it could be that it is because they stopped blending in the sour vatted ale into the fresh ale. No more tang. Less bueno.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 07:29 AM

Foreign extra is good, i like the black lager better.The original is very thin.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 07:53 AM

I had a partial pint of this last weekend while out and about. Not impressed and not as good as I remember. I am definitely not a mainstream beer guy so I don't look for this one or clammer over it like the general public does. Not impressed though so it will stay on my list if it is available and nothing else to drink then I will consider it otherwise no thanks.Mike

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:19 AM

Foreign extra is good, i like the black lager better.The original is very thin.

I thought the black lager seemed like Bud with food coloring

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

I enjoy the standard guinness on draft. otherwise not so much.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 10:26 AM

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:39 PM

I'm just back from Aruba. I challenge you to find any local deal there. Their only product is aloe and you can't even find that cheap anywhere.

On the next island over, Bonaire, I found a surprising number of Belgian beers. Being a Dutch territory, I'd bet you get more decent beers in Aruba than in most beach resorts.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

On the next island over, Bonaire, I found a surprising number of Belgian beers. Being a Dutch territory, I'd bet you get more decent beers in Aruba than in most beach resorts.

There is some belgian beers, but not many. Aruba really caters to the NE USA crowd so lots of Bud and Bud like products in the stores. I stay at an all inclusive resort to paying $4-5 for a bottle of beer in the store is hard to do much of. The local Balashi is okay at least it tastes like it is made from actual malted grain and not adjuncts. My complaint with Aruba is still that there are no deals I can find on the island, everything is pricy.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

I've never really enjoyed Guinness, it's just too bland. No, it's not any better in Ireland. Murphy's is a little better. Beamish is a LOT better (and is better in Ireland, too). But people are right, the Guinness Extra, and especially, Foreign Extra, are both good stouts. Just wish Beamish was easier to find.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:22 AM

I've never really enjoyed Guinness, it's just too bland. No, it's not any better in Ireland.

had it in england and there was no question it tasted better. maybe it's a little too subtle for you. it is the bud light of stouts after all ;)

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:07 AM

had it in england and there was no question it tasted better. maybe it's a little too subtle for you. it is the bud light of stouts after all ;)

Yeah, I wouldn't bet my life on being able to pick Coors Light and Miller Lite out of a lineup. I believe people think it tastes better there because of the power of suggestion.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:12 AM

Yeah, I wouldn't bet my life on being able to pick Coors Light and Miller Lite out of a lineup. I believe people think it tastes better there because of the power of suggestion.

When I had it there it was a beer I was drinking a lot of so I was pretty familiar with the taste. While I'm not a super-taster or anything I would say I'm less biased and better equiped than the general public to make a call on it.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:20 AM

When I had it there it was a beer I was drinking a lot of so I was pretty familiar with the taste. While I'm not a super-taster or anything I would say I'm less biased and better equiped than the general public to make a call on it.

I would be wondering about the mechanism. Is the recipe different, and if so, why? I don't think it's freshness -- the Guinness we have here in the States is brewed in North America, and freshness within a few weeks shouldn't make much of a difference with a dry stout. Regardless, the Guinness I had in Ireland still was not a good dry stout compared to any others I've had, and easily bested by Beamish. I got a pint of each side by side and the difference was quite incredible.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

I would be wondering about the mechanism. Is the recipe different, and if so, why? I don't think it's freshness -- the Guinness we have here in the States is brewed in North America, and freshness within a few weeks shouldn't make much of a difference with a dry stout. Regardless, the Guinness I had in Ireland still was not a good dry stout compared to any others I've had, and easily bested by Beamish. I got a pint of each side by side and the difference was quite incredible.

I believe I read somewhere that there are 17 different recipes depending on where the beer will be sold. The ones sold in Ireland and the UK are some of the lighter recipes while the Export version sold in the Caribbean is one of the (if not THE) strongest.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:30 AM

I believe I read somewhere that there are 17 different recipes depending on where the beer will be sold. The ones sold in Ireland and the UK are some of the lighter recipes while the Export version sold in the Caribbean is one of the (if not THE) strongest.

i really like the caribbean version, it had whoomp!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:34 AM

i really like the caribbean version, it had whoomp!

That's what I've heard. I don't think I've ever actually tried it. Is it sold in the States? I'm not exposing myself to the heat and humidity of the Caribbean just to try a stout. :)

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:51 AM

That's what I've heard. I don't think I've ever actually tried it. Is it sold in the States? I'm not exposing myself to the heat and humidity of the Caribbean just to try a stout. :)

I could be imagining it, but I thought I saw the Foreign Extra (in addition to the Extra) at Veteran's Liquor (Academy and Austin Bluffs) last week. I'll have to check on that. Not sure why I didn't grab some. It was fairly expensive, but not ridiculous.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:15 AM

I could be imagining it, but I thought I saw the Foreign Extra (in addition to the Extra) at Veteran's Liquor (Academy and Austin Bluffs) last week. I'll have to check on that. Not sure why I didn't grab some. It was fairly expensive, but not ridiculous.

They have Foreign Extra here, but my understanding is it is different than the Caribbean version.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:27 AM

see - I enjoy guinness b/c it's so light. It has taste, I can drink a lot of it and not feel like crap, seems like a win!


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