RIMS
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:59 AM
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:42 AM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:09 AM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:13 AM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:17 AM
#6 *_Guest_Blktre_*
Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:19 AM
I pump out of my MT w/no problems. But it can happen. FB are the worst for this.Agitated mash. Why? To me one purpose of a recirculating mash is to set the bed and have crystal clear runoff. Can you explain more of the agitated mash?Ive always had trouble /the RIMS idea too. But whats the difference in this and electric boiling? I cant see none as long as you don't scorch or caramelize.I've always wondered about over compaction of the grain bed with these systems.They get used a lot, so it can't be that bad, but I would be in favor of an agitated mash and heated mash tun myself......BrewBasser
Edited by Blktre, 28 May 2009 - 05:21 AM.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:02 AM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:33 AM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:29 PM
This is where my hesitation comes in. I vorlauf to get the run off mostly clear, but if there are no clear advantages as far as flavor, long term stability, or final clarity of the beer are concerned, then it seems like a waste of time to employ any type of recirculating mash system.With an agitated mash you have a far less chance of getting a stuck runnoff. With HERMS and RIMS you are essentially running off during the entire mash AND runoff so the bed is constantly being compacted.Of course, and agitated mash works a bit better when you have a mashtun and a lauter tun as separate vessels.My personal opinion is that a "crystal clear" runoff, while looking nice, is not really that necesary. My brewing professor even posited that vorlaufing was a waste of time, although I disagreed with him a bit there.BrewBasser
#10 *_Guest_Blktre_*
Posted 28 May 2009 - 02:01 PM
Well, i believe recirc. till crystal clear coupled with a few other techniques does have an effect on beer clarity. But thats just me.My personal opinion is that a "crystal clear" runoff, while looking nice, is not really that necesary. My brewing professor even posited that vorlaufing was a waste of time, although I disagreed with him a bit there.BrewBasser
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 02:17 PM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 02:35 PM
Mine cost a bit more but could not agree more.Maybe many have the same sort of setup, and I know some others can be much more intricate and precisely controlled, but this has allowed me to make much better consistant beer, controlling the mash temp exact, plus the other HERMS benefits, all by purchasing about $25 worth of equipt (plus a couple QDs) and using an old IC- couldnt be easier.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 04:47 PM
Maybe as you are so clearly in one camp you can detail why you are so convinced so that others might learn?Having built and run both a RIMS and HERMS, I can say that the HRRMS is definitely superior.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:01 PM
So you've done HERMS and RIMS, so what is a HRRMS?Having built and run both a RIMS and HERMS, I can say that the HRRMS is definitely superior.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:17 PM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:19 PM
More efficient heating, easier temp ramps.Maybe as you are so clearly in one camp you can detail why you are so convinced so that others might learn?
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:33 PM
My main concern was a concentrated heat source for a RIMS that potentially can produce some unwanted malliard reactions and/or caramelization. That's not saying you will get either with a RIMS, lots of people use them successfully. But, it almost impossible to have that happen with a HERMS.And some brewers that are much more accomplished than I am will probably say both are a waste of time. I'll disagree because it does give you a little more control over the whole process either way.Maybe as you are so clearly in one camp you can detail why you are so convinced so that others might learn?
#18 *_Guest_Blktre_*
Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:48 PM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:52 PM
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 07:51 PM
No, that's HRRMS.I'm in the camp for a HERMS since whenever I heat (direct) my mash i get a damn good scorch. Now, by HERMS if I recall correctly, I will send my wort from the mash through a copper coil in my hot liquor to add heat to the mash. RIMS / HERMS, whichever, my plans are just that, whichever category it fits into. I thinks that's HERMS, right?
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