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[3rd party JKor]

Is there a benefit of Iodophor over Starsan?  I switched to Starsan many, many moons ago and never looked back.  Five Star also makes a non-foaming version of Starsan (can't remember the name now) but a do have a bottle of it around somewhere.  I was going to use it for re-circulating sanitization but never set it up.

 

 

ETA:  It's Saniclean.  Also, I don't rinse starsan.  just dump it and leave the foam.

Edited by JKor, 28 May 2020 - 06:32 AM.

[HVB]

Is there a benefit of Iodophor over Starsan?  I switched to Starsan many, many moons ago and never looked back.  Five Star also makes a non-foaming version of Starsan (can't remember the name now) but a do have a bottle of it around somewhere.  I was going to use it for re-circulating sanitization but never set it up.

 

 

ETA:  It's Saniclean.  Also, I don't rinse starsan.  just dump it and leave the foam.

There is.  I think it had to do with Iodophor getting rid of some things Starsan did not.  There were many posts on it here.  I think it was mentioned by Denny or Ken.  I bought some but have not used it yet.

[positiveContact]

Right, iodophor kills wild yeast and starsan is no guarantee. If say it's at least good to alternate sometimes to make sure nothing takes hold in your brewery. I still use both.

[HVB]

Right, iodophor kills wild yeast and starsan is no guarantee. If say it's at least good to alternate sometimes to make sure nothing takes hold in your brewery. I still use both.

I think I am going to run it though a bunch of kegs.  Fill the keg cleaner with it and let them run for a couple minutes.

[3rd party JKor]

Interesting.

 

What's the bee's knees in keg cleaners nowadays?  i see that CIP spray balls have become much more reasonably priced.  I remember trying to find those way back when and having no luck at all.

 

I built a keg cleaner out of PVC, with a homemade nozzle, a while back but it never got the kegs clean enough.

 

ETA:  This looks nice

 

https://www.ssbrewte...cts/keg-wassher

Edited by JKor, 28 May 2020 - 07:23 AM.

[HVB]

Interesting.

 

What's the bee's knees in keg cleaners nowadays?  i see that CIP spray balls have become much more reasonably priced.  I remember trying to find those way back when and having no luck at all.

 

I built a keg cleaner out of PVC, with a homemade nozzle, a while back but it never got the kegs clean enough.

I still use my homemade one and have no issues.  I would like to go and get a CIP ball but have not yet.

[denny]

Is there a benefit of Iodophor over Starsan?  I switched to Starsan many, many moons ago and never looked back.  Five Star also makes a non-foaming version of Starsan (can't remember the name now) but a do have a bottle of it around somewhere.  I was going to use it for re-circulating sanitization but never set it up.

 

 

ETA:  It's Saniclean.  Also, I don't rinse starsan.  just dump it and leave the foam.

IMO there is.  Iodophor will kill some wild yeasts that StarSan won't.

[positiveContact]

what strength do you guys mix this to?  12.5 ppm or 25 ppm?

[positiveContact]

I've been mixing it to 25 ppm which might be too strong to be no rinse

 

I've drank probably 100 gallons of beer like this...

[3rd party JKor]

dead man walking!

[positiveContact]

dead man walking!

I wish I could without my foot hurting. Sucks.

[denny]

what strength do you guys mix this to?  12.5 ppm or 25 ppm?

12.5  If you have questions we can't answer, I'd be happy to put you in touch with my friend at National Chemical or ask him to stop by here

Edited by denny, 03 June 2020 - 10:33 AM.

[positiveContact]

I found the thread on the HBA forum that answered most of my questions previously.  I pretty much never get all of the iodophor out of my vessels despite leaving them upside down for 10-15 minutes.  there is always a small puddle after I leave them right side up again.  with starsan I didn't worry about this at all and I figured iodophor was the same.  now I'm wondering if I'm dosing myself with too much of the stuff via my homebrew since I drink it pretty much daily and I was utilizing the top end of the acceptable range at 25 ppm.  I'll def be cutting it in half or at least close to half in the future.

Edited by Mando, 03 June 2020 - 12:01 PM.

[3rd party JKor]

When you dump the wort in there it's way less than 25ppm. 

[positiveContact]

When you dump the wort in there it's way less than 25ppm. 

 

I'm not assuming I can drink the stuff at 25 ppm though.  I don't know how diluted it needs to be to be safe.  what's the risk here though?  is it just iodine?  or is there something else I'd want to concern myself with?  I'm not sure what the long term affects of slightly more iodine than you need is.  most of the information out there is about not having enough or having way too much really quickly.

Edited by Mando, 04 June 2020 - 11:33 AM.

[3rd party JKor]

I can't imagine it's a health risk at these dilutions.

[positiveContact]

I can't imagine it's a health risk at these dilutions.

 

you are likely right.  sometimes I get paranoid when really I should probably be more concerned about the alcohol 

Edited by Mando, 04 June 2020 - 12:21 PM.

[Genesee Ted]

I'm not assuming I can drink the stuff at 25 ppm though. I don't know how diluted it needs to be to be safe. what's the risk here though? is it just iodine? or is there something else I'd want to concern myself with? I'm not sure what the long term affects of slightly more iodine than you need is. most of the information out there is about not having enough or having way too much really quickly.

It is iodine with phosphoric acid. When I use it, I stick to the low end of the “rinse free” dilution.

[positiveContact]

It is iodine with phosphoric acid. When I use it, I stick to the low end of the “rinse free” dilution.

 

do you know if there are any issues beyond the beer might taste a little like iodine?

[HVB]

do you know if there are any issues beyond the beer might taste a little like iodine?

 

Your color looks a little funny dude .. You feel okay