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#21 pickle_rick

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 07:45 AM

WLP200 (Best of Both Worlds) was a mix of WLP001 (Chico) and WLP002 ( English Ale) . I really like how the blend works for me starting at about 66-67. I did buy WLP200 back in the day but can not for the life of me remember what the beer was like.


I really liked the one beer I've made with the dry yeast mix so far. Better than either by itself in my opinion.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:57 AM

I really liked the one beer I've made with the dry yeast mix so far. Better than either by itself in my opinion.

 

I'd be curious to know if you get the same characteristics if you try it again.  Generally, co-pitching yeast is a crapshoot.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:05 AM

I'd be curious to know if you get the same characteristics if you try it again.  Generally, co-pitching yeast is a crapshoot.

Seeing I am the one that mentioned co-pitching and I have done it on about 6-8 beer recently I will answer that yes, I get the same characteristics. 


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:21 AM

Seeing I am the one that mentioned co-pitching and I have done it on about 6-8 beer recently I will answer that yes, I get the same characteristics. 

 

That's great to hear.  You seem to be an anomaly, but in a GOOD way!


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:35 AM

I'd be curious to know if you get the same characteristics if you try it again. Generally, co-pitching yeast is a crapshoot.


I've got two more so I'll have to let you know what I experience.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:37 AM

That's great to hear.  You seem to be an anomaly, but in a GOOD way!

I have heard that before :smilielol:


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

That's great to hear. You seem to be an anomaly, but in a GOOD way!


Maybe the dry yeast tends to be more repeatable. Not sure if you are thinking of liquid yeast blends or not.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:27 PM

Maybe the dry yeast tends to be more repeatable. Not sure if you are thinking of liquid yeast blends or not.

 

I've tried both with inconsistent results, and that;'s what others have told me their experience was, also.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 04:29 AM

I've tried both with inconsistent results, and that;'s what others have told me their experience was, also.

 

what was the inconsistency?  which yeast flavor profile dominates?  I would think that would be the major difference.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 06:17 AM

FYI:  I placed an order on Amazon for some wheat, Saaz pellets, DME, 34/70 and the Diamond Lager yeast.  I have enough liquid lager yeast around so both of these (plus some S-189 that I have) will all be backup/plan-B yeasts.



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:00 AM

what was the inconsistency?  which yeast flavor profile dominates?  I would think that would be the major difference.

 

yep, there's no way to guarantee which will dominate


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:11 AM

yep, there's no way to guarantee which will dominate

 

I can live with that with the S-04 and US-05 mix.  it seems like you are more likely to hit the attenuation of US-05 regardless of the flavor profile so I'd take it as a win.  there are other combos where I might want to be more sure of which yeast will dominate the flavor profile.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:39 PM

Got a pack of this in the mail today. Anyone want to do a collaboration brew with this stuff? Not necessarily to ship but to compare flavor notes on the same recipe.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:15 AM

Got a pack of this in the mail today. Anyone want to do a collaboration brew with this stuff? Not necessarily to ship but to compare flavor notes on the same recipe.

I have some (along with my first packet of 34/70) but I have Bayern running now and 2278 coming up so I plan to keep these as "spur-of-the-moment" yeast strains.  I will post when I go to use them and maybe the timing will work.  I don't remember where it was discussed but it sounds like 34/70 and Lallemand Diamond are both derived from 2124.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:31 AM

OT- how do you like 2278?last night I made a starter to try and build up a packet for a pale lager this weekend.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:35 AM

OT- how do you like 2278?last night I made a starter to try and build up a packet for a pale lager this weekend.

2278 is really nice.  I started getting into 2000 and 2001 (Budvar and Pilsner Urquell) and I liked both and then Wyeast released that 2782 Staro which was really, really nice so I got away from 2278 for a bit.  It flocs like a mofo so you're going to get a nice, clear beer from it.  The Czech character is very nice and I feel like it creates a 'crisp' beer where Budvar and PU both created maltier beer.  Not sure how yeast impacts maltiness and you would think a high floccer might be a low attenuater which might create malty beers but what do I know.  Please post back after you've tried a beer with it.  I plan to make a pale lager with Saaz hops and then maybe a hoppy amber lager.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:03 PM

I have some (along with my first packet of 34/70) but I have Bayern running now and 2278 coming up so I plan to keep these as "spur-of-the-moment" yeast strains. I will post when I go to use them and maybe the timing will work. I don't remember where it was discussed but it sounds like 34/70 and Lallemand Diamond are both derived from 2124.

Let me know. Im running S189 right now and plan a few more brews with it. Ill start running Diamond when you do.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:00 PM

Let me know. Im running S189 right now and plan a few more brews with it. Ill start running Diamond when you do.

It will be fun to compare notes on it. I'll keep you posted. Cheers.


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