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[matt6150]

How about wheat? Do most people do a 90 min boil for wheat? I don't brew with it much, so just wondering.

[Steve Urquell]

Last time I had a Bud Light it was pretty cabbagey.

[HVB]

I've used pils as base for years now. I've gone thru several bags of Rahr, Weyermann, and Best Malz pils. Most boils are 60-75 minutes. 175F whirlpool on most for ~15mins. No DMS present in the finished beer.

I do make sure to keep the lid away from the pot. The condensation dripping back into the beer is bad frikken mojo. A good boil off rate 10%+ (mine's 15%)is probably more important than actual boil time.

Do you keep the lid off when you are whirlpooling too?

How about wheat? Do most people do a 90 min boil for wheat? I don't brew with it much, so just wondering.

 

No, I do those for 60, but even my American Wheat is only 40% wheat.

[positiveContact]

I've used pils as base for years now. I've gone thru several bags of Rahr, Weyermann, and Best Malz pils. Most boils are 60-75 minutes. 175F whirlpool on most for ~15mins. No DMS present in the finished beer.

I do make sure to keep the lid away from the pot. The condensation dripping back into the beer is bad frikken mojo. A good boil off rate 10%+ (mine's 15%)is probably more important than actual boil time.

 

I always put the lid on once I start chilling the beer.  what do you do?

[HVB]

I always put the lid on once I start chilling the beer.  what do you do?

what do you do in the whirlpool?  I add the lid back 9 out of 10 times.

[positiveContact]

what do you do in the whirlpool?  I add the lid back 9 out of 10 times.

 

once I start chilling the lid is on.  I do take it off just to add the hops in or occasionally stir the wort by moving the chiller around.

[3rd party JKor]

How about wheat? Do most people do a 90 min boil for wheat? I don't brew with it much, so just wondering.

 

 

No.  I've never heard that.  Does wheat even contain SMM? 

[neddles]

once I start chilling the lid is on. I do take it off just to add the hops in or occasionally stir the wort by moving the chiller around.

exactly what I do.

[denny]

I have done both 90 and 60 minute boil times for beers I use a majority of Pils malt in and to be honest I have not noticed a difference in the final product.  Is there really any benefit to doing a 90 minute boil?  When you add that and a long whrilpool it can make for a long day.

 

What you have discovered is that many people use old, outdated information to make brewing decisions.  I have found the same thing as you have...that a 90 min, boil for pils malt just isn't necessary with today's malts.

So would a 60 minute boil and a 30 minute whirlpool accomplish the same as a 90 minute boil?

 

No, I don't think so.

[positiveContact]

well I'd like to thank you all for occasionally saving me 30 minutes

[Big Nake]

What you have discovered is that many people use old, outdated information to make brewing decisions.  I have found the same thing as you have...that a 90 min, boil for pils malt just isn't necessary with today's malts.

Yeah, this is important. There were dark days of homebrewing where answers may not have been easy to come by so people set up some arbitrary guidelines about what to do and what not to do. We have some very good people here who do some vigorous research that we can all benefit from (Denny, Kai, Marshall at Brulosophy and many others) and then things get clearer. I'm sure that there are many ideas that have been adopted by homebrewers that are either inaccurate, not applied properly, etc. but because of a lack of information, people do what is safe and generally accepted. For instance, I like to spit in my chilled wort, mash for 5 minutes, use 100% roasted barley and boil my yeast! It's all good! Not.

[denny]

Yeah, this is important. There were dark days of homebrewing where answers may not have been easy to come by so people set up some arbitrary guidelines about what to do and what not to do. We have some very good people here who do some vigorous research that we can all benefit from (Denny, Kai, Marshall at Brulosophy and many others) and then things get clearer. I'm sure that there are many ideas that have been adopted by homebrewers that are either inaccurate, not applied properly, etc. but because of a lack of information, people do what is safe and generally accepted. For instance, I like to spit in my chilled wort, mash for 5 minutes, use 100% roasted barley and boil my yeast! It's all good! Not.

 

In the early days a lot of info came from commercial brewers and as we all know, that's not necessarily applicable to what we do.  If you've ever read Noonan's "New Brewing Lager Beer" that becomes obvious.

[HVB]

In the early days a lot of info came from commercial brewers and as we all know, that's not necessarily applicable to what we do.  If you've ever read Noonan's "New Brewing Lager Beer" that becomes obvious.

A book on my shelf that I still have not read.

[denny]

A book on my shelf that I still have not read.

 

Wait until you're ready for a nap.  Same with the new "Water" book.

[HVB]

Wait until you're ready for a nap.  Same with the new "Water" book.

Bought that one with hopes to read it and learn.  I did skim it some but have not sat down and read it.  At this point I am not sure I will.

[neddles]

Same with the new "Water" book.

It's a good reference book. Not cover to cover, at least for me.

[matt6150]

No. I've never heard that. Does wheat even contain SMM?

It must be for a different reason. I just remember being told at some point to do a 90 min boil if using a percentage of wheat. But again I don't really brew with wheat so I have never done it.

[denny]

Bought that one with hopes to read it and learn.  I did skim it some but have not sat down and read it.  At this point I am not sure I will.

 

Most of it relates to commercial brewing and has little to do with homebrewing.

[positiveContact]

Most of it relates to commercial brewing and has little to do with homebrewing.

 

I bought yeast and some of it was helpful but a lot of it was like this.

[HVB]

I bought yeast and some of it was helpful but a lot of it was like this.

Huh .. I use yeast every time I brew