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Posted 13 January 2014 - 06:47 AM

I'm thinking something americanish.  probably c-hop it up.  I have some citra if that would go well.  i've never had one but i'm curious if any of you guys have consumer or brewed something like this.  :cheers:

 

here is a commercial example: https://www.drinkran...rew-recipe-opa/

 

 

Recipe Type: All-Grain
Batch Size: 5.5 US gal
Original Gravity: 1.054-1.057
Terminal Gravity: 1.010-1.012
IBU: 35
SRM Target: 9

Boil Length: 60 min
Mash: 152 F, 60 min
Fermentation: 68 F
Yeast suggestion: English Ale

Grist:
2 Row: 77%
Crystal 60L: 7%
Oat Malt: 16%

Mash Adjuncts:
None

Kettle Adjuncts:
None

Hops:
Centennial: Bittering, Flavor, Aroma, Dry-hop
Citra: Flavor, Aroma, Dry-hop


Edited by TheGuv, 13 January 2014 - 06:48 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:02 AM

That is a lot of oat.  I do have a partial bag of Valley Malt oat malt I was given.. hmmm  :scratch:



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:11 AM

I've brewed something very similar a few times.  It never really cleared but I really liked what the oats added.  I used flaked.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:31 AM

I've brewed something very similar a few times.  It never really cleared but I really liked what the oats added.  I used flaked.

While not the same but I add flaked barley to a lot of my APA/IPA recipes.  I think it gives the beer a bit of body and adds to the mouthfeel so I do not worry about mashing low.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:43 AM

here is another commercial example:  https://www.fortgeor...tmeal-pale-ale/

 

if flaked barely works i don't see why flaked oats would be a problem.

 

according to another thread optimal fermentability is 153F which I never viewed as mashing low.  given this that will now just be my default mash temp.


Edited by TheGuv, 13 January 2014 - 07:44 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:57 AM

here is another commercial example:  https://www.fortgeor...tmeal-pale-ale/

 

if flaked barely works i don't see why flaked oats would be a problem.

 

according to another thread optimal fermentability is 153F which I never viewed as mashing low.  given this that will now just be my default mash temp.

 

Just remember your first post had oat malt not flaked oats and they are not the same.

 

ETA: the beer in that link sounds really tasty though


Edited by drez77, 13 January 2014 - 07:59 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:09 AM

Just remember your first post had oat malt not flaked oats and they are not the same.

 

ETA: the beer in that link sounds really tasty though

Saw that too. Never used it but my understanding is that oat malt carries a bit more flavor with it than the flaked which have very little flavor. Depends on what you want.

 

I have used Simpson's golden naked oats several times to good effect in pales.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:17 AM

Just remember your first post had oat malt not flaked oats and they are not the same.

 

ETA: the beer in that link sounds really tasty though

 

i totally overlooked that.  in my head it was flaked oats.

 

Saw that too. Never used it but my understanding is that oat malt carries a bit more flavor with it than the flaked which have very little flavor. Depends on what you want.

 

I have used Simpson's golden naked oats several times to good effect in pales.

 

i'm not even sure what oat malt is.  i'd probably do something more like the second recipe and use some quick oats like i typically do in oatmeal beers.  i'm surprised the sunrise OPA doesn't list any crystal.  just 2-row and flaked oats.  if i were coming up with this thing on my own i'd put some kind of crystal in there.  maybe C15 or C40.  not a ton, just enough to give the malt side of the beer a little more than 1 dimension.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:26 AM

I agree with trying just quick oats.  I would just add a bit of crystal but it would be like 3-4% of the grist.

 

Oat malt is the oat before it is flaked and gelatinized (sp) I believe.

 

link to oat malt https://www.midwests...t-and-sons.html



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:36 AM

I agree with trying just quick oats.  I would just add a bit of crystal but it would be like 3-4% of the grist.

 

Oat malt is the oat before it is flaked and gelatinized (sp) I believe.

 

link to oat malt https://www.midwests...t-and-sons.html

 

the reviews are funny.  someone said it didn't covnert well and didn't bring much taste.  5 STARS!!  :lol:



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:36 AM

Oat malt is simply malted oats, lightly kilned and I believe it has enough DP to convert itself.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:39 AM

it has enough DP to convert itself.

 

that sounds dirty.

 

so reading the reviews it doesn't really seem worth using over standard flaked/quick oats.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

that sounds dirty.

I wondered how long that would take. Well done.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:20 AM

DP Pale ale... lets run with it



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:47 AM

you going to brew this one with me?



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:56 AM

you going to brew this one with me?

Propose a recipe and hop schedule.

 

ETA: these are good ways to push me to make time to brew these days.  But honey I have to because another guy is brewing it too!


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:00 AM

Propose a recipe and hop schedule.

 

ETA: these are good ways to push me to make time to brew these days.  But honey I have to because another guy is brewing it too!

 

your wife will hate me before she even knows me.  now that's efficiency! :)

 

eta:  we have a little time - my chest freezer is currently a keezer until I kill some kegs.


Edited by TheGuv, 13 January 2014 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:12 AM

your wife will hate me before she even knows me.  now that's efficiency! :)

 

eta:  we have a little time - my chest freezer is currently a keezer until I kill some kegs.

I will take a stab at a recipe latter.  I am thinking straight up American with Cascade, Centennial and Chinook or Columbus?



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

I will take a stab at a recipe latter.  I am thinking straight up American with Cascade, Centennial and Chinook or Columbus?

 

i've got all of that stuff.  i think chinook would be nice but go light on it and mostly for bittering.

 

i don't have my recipe formulation tools on me but I'd do 2-row as the base with a good amount of oatmeal.  maybe 2 lbs for 10 gallons.  i'd even go up to 2.5 lbs like we did on the stout unless that is insane.  then probably 0.5 lb of C40.  shoot for something like 1.050-1.055 OG.  ferment on an american yeast.  maybe that mangrove jacks west coast pale ale would be good if you think that's a good option and it's available.  are you drinking that beer yet?

 

for the hops - probably 40 ibus of chinook and/or columbus.

 

probably 1-2 oz each of cent and cascade.  then nail it with a good dry hop of cent.

 

these are just ideas of course.  i haven't thought through it that much.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:37 PM

i've got all of that stuff.  i think chinook would be nice but go light on it and mostly for bittering.

 

i don't have my recipe formulation tools on me but I'd do 2-row as the base with a good amount of oatmeal.  maybe 2 lbs for 10 gallons.  i'd even go up to 2.5 lbs like we did on the stout unless that is insane.  then probably 0.5 lb of C40.  shoot for something like 1.050-1.055 OG.  ferment on an american yeast.  maybe that mangrove jacks west coast pale ale would be good if you think that's a good option and it's available.  are you drinking that beer yet?

 

for the hops - probably 40 ibus of chinook and/or columbus.

 

probably 1-2 oz each of cent and cascade.  then nail it with a good dry hop of cent.

 

these are just ideas of course.  i haven't thought through it that much.

 

I had just started toying with it and I was at the following for 5g.

8# -Two Row

2# - Vienna

.75 - Oats

.75 - C-40

 

I could see backing the C-40 to .5 and bring the oats to 1#

 

Hops

Chinook @ 60 - 35-40IBU

.75oz Cascade @20

.75oz Columbis @20

1oz Centennial @5

1oz Cascade@0

1oz Centennial @0

2oz Centennial DH

1oz Columbus DH

 

So it looks like we are on the same page although I may have a bit more hops in my recipe.

 

The M44 beer got kegged Saturday and will be ready by the weekend.  The initial samples were very good.  It did floc out better than S-05.




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