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#21 Mya

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 08:35 AM

You will be amazed the difference in pressures between one of these and the gauge on the reg. 

I know that the pressure drops the further down the line it goes, i wonder how short Jdtirado's gas line is to his keg from his regulator, mine is outside my fridge so there is 4 feet of line before it hits the manifold, then a foot to the keg on each leg.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 08:44 AM

I know that the pressure drops the further down the line it goes,

It shouldn't on the gas side. The pressure should be the same anywhere in that line.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 08:51 AM

It shouldn't on the gas side. The pressure should be the same anywhere in that line.

huh, don't know where I came up with that, may bad

 

so why would the keg pressure be different than the regulator pressure? 



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:00 AM

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Ok, what do you use this for?

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:24 AM

Ok, what do you use this for?

Measuring the pressure in your keg and this looks like it is set up with a purge valve asl well



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:28 AM

Way too quick even when I burped the keg and lowered the psi to 3.  Foamy and quick.

so it sounds overcarbed still. I had this problem with just dispensing from the keg for a long time, then I stopped force carbing so much when I fill the keg at let my normal serving tank do most of the carbing. It takes a lot of purges to get the pressure down.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:58 AM

so it sounds overcarbed still. I had this problem with just dispensing from the keg for a long time, then I stopped force carbing so much when I fill the keg at let my normal serving tank do most of the carbing. It takes a lot of purges to get the pressure down.

My method of carbing is to set the psi at 9 and I have my freezer at 35 degrees.  Of course I may be overcarbing at this temp but the beer tastes good to me.  

 

Should I still burp and wait till the next day?



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:27 AM

(assuming thermometers and gages are correct) At 35 degrees and 9 psi you should be at 2.43 volumes of CO2.  I wouldnt say that is overcarbed.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:30 AM

Way too quick even when I burped the keg and lowered the psi to 3.  Foamy and quick.

 

 

You need to find where the pressure is coming from to make it go quickly.  Quick will often increase the foam, even at regular carbonation levels.  Though I have never timed it, I think you would want to be filling the bottle in the 10-15 second range.  Just a gut guess.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:31 AM

Another thought.  If you let the kegerator sit for a couple of days, does the pressure on the reg creep up on you?  Then you vent the keg and it goes back to the set point. This can happen if it is ready for a diaphragm replacement.  It can also lead to overcarbing.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 02:47 PM

I know that the pressure drops the further down the line it goes, i wonder how short Jdtirado's gas line is to his keg from his regulator, mine is outside my fridge so there is 4 feet of line before it hits the manifold, then a foot to the keg on each leg.

I have 10 ft of line

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 06:49 PM

I am sure this is Not your problem, i had the same thing and it turned out to be a bad ball lock valve. I changed it out and it ran nicely. They recommend to chill the bottles before use, but i don't anymore. I fill with 3 or 4 psi usually.

 

I run right off the keg when bottling. Too much line and you might need to turn the pressure up higher.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:13 PM

I am sure this is Not your problem, i had the same thing and it turned out to be a bad ball lock valve. I changed it out and it ran nicely. They recommend to chill the bottles before use, but i don't anymore. I fill with 3 or 4 psi usually.

 

I run right off the keg when bottling. Too much line and you might need to turn the pressure up higher.

bad poppet? causing nucleation?



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:44 AM

I am still curious by the fact that he says it is flowing fast.  That means pressure has to be coming from somewhere to "push it".

 

When you poor beers off that keg, do you get a lot of foam or overcarb taste?



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:55 AM

No I like the taste and isn't foamy but I also have 10 foot of lines.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:08 PM

when you connect the beergun line on, is there foam in that 10 ft of line? Or does the foam start at the beergun itself?

 

If it is the entire line, I tend to think it is something with the disconnect or poppet - try a different disconnect, one you know to be good. Also, make sure the line is actually 3/16 ID tubing (I don't know how this would be wrong, but just make sure).

 

If it is liquid in the line, and foaming at the beergun, then I tend to think you have a slight blockage in the beergun. Disassemble it, and use the provided brush to make sure everything is clear. Also check where the rubber nipple is to make sure the rubber is smooth, as is the flared part of the tubing.

 

Also, you have the liquid line connected to the stainless tube jutting out of the back, and not to the brass fitting, right?



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:31 PM

when you connect the beergun line on, is there foam in that 10 ft of line? Or does the foam start at the beergun itself?

 

If it is the entire line, I tend to think it is something with the disconnect or poppet - try a different disconnect, one you know to be good. Also, make sure the line is actually 3/16 ID tubing (I don't know how this would be wrong, but just make sure).

 

If it is liquid in the line, and foaming at the beergun, then I tend to think you have a slight blockage in the beergun. Disassemble it, and use the provided brush to make sure everything is clear. Also check where the rubber nipple is to make sure the rubber is smooth, as is the flared part of the tubing.

 

Also, you have the liquid line connected to the stainless tube jutting out of the back, and not to the brass fitting, right?

Gun itself

 

Cleaned the system afterwards (great minds think alike)

 

Connected correctly.

 

 

I am going to write a book some day about my becoming a brewer in spite of myself.  



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:43 PM

when you connect the beergun line on, is there foam in that 10 ft of line? Or does the foam start at the beergun itself? If it is the entire line, I tend to think it is something with the disconnect or poppet - try a different disconnect, one you know to be good. Also, make sure the line is actually 3/16 ID tubing (I don't know how this would be wrong, but just make sure). If it is liquid in the line, and foaming at the beergun, then I tend to think you have a slight blockage in the beergun. Disassemble it, and use the provided brush to make sure everything is clear. Also check where the rubber nipple is to make sure the rubber is smooth, as is the flared part of the tubing. Also, you have the liquid line connected to the stainless tube jutting out of the back, and not to the brass fitting, right?

Also make sure you're opening the trigger up all the way.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 04:50 AM

It shouldn't on the gas side. The pressure should be the same anywhere in that line.

This ^^^  Unless you're running a large volume of gas down the line, which in this case you wouldn't be.



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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:47 AM

Can you take a picture of how you have it set up, and maybe a video of what is happening?




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