IPA Tomorrow
#1
Posted 18 July 2009 - 11:56 PM
#2
Posted 19 July 2009 - 04:27 AM
#3
Posted 19 July 2009 - 04:30 AM
I think it will make a nice balance. Not too dry, not too sweet but still a little fruity. US-05 on it's own doesn't seem to have much character so this will be nice.It hasn't been a big summer for me, brewing-wise. The last batch I made was in May, and I've still got kegs on tap that were brewed in February. With the two hand surgeries and various craziness at work, I haven't been in the mood for much brewing.I'm going to break the streak tomorrow with a 10 gallon batch of IPA. I'm using CJ's basic gristbill and all Amarillo hops. I'll be fermenting in two BB's so I thought I'd try an experiment. One will be fermented with S-04 and the other with US-05. Once they're done I'll mix them together in my 10 gal keg for serving. I'm interested to see how the individual ones taste along with the mix. I may even bottle a few of each with carb tabs before mixing them in the, just to get a full appreciation of the differences after a good aging.
#4
Posted 19 July 2009 - 08:24 AM
That's what I was thinking.I think it will make a nice balance. Not too dry, not too sweet but still a little fruity. US-05 on it's own doesn't seem to have much character so this will be nice.
#5
Posted 19 July 2009 - 10:04 AM
#6
Posted 19 July 2009 - 10:59 AM
#7
Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:57 PM
#8
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:34 AM
Curious as what temp you are fermenting at. I ferment 05 at 64 degrees and never usually get over 80%, my buddy had (set him up now) no temp control and his half of our batches would ferment ambient 70-72. He would get 85-88%, but would also get diacytel along with it, our beers tasted night and day.The S05 portion was very cloudy with yeast, quite attenuated at 88% down to 1.007. .
#9
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:00 AM
#10
Posted 30 July 2009 - 02:25 PM
This one was 68F. I normally do S05 at 65F, but I've found that is too low for S04 (they were fermented side-by-side) or it will throw diacetyl. I'm surprised your buddy got diacetyl at 70-72F. Diacetyl is usually the product of incomplete fermentation and lower temps. Hotter should have less diacetyl and more fusel.Curious as what temp you are fermenting at. I ferment 05 at 64 degrees and never usually get over 80%, my buddy had (set him up now) no temp control and his half of our batches would ferment ambient 70-72. He would get 85-88%, but would also get diacytel along with it, our beers tasted night and day.
The bill was essentially the bill for CJ's Rising Sun JPA with a couple small subs for availability. Mash was a bit cooler than I'd planned because I simply couldn't get enough water in the cooler. I wanted 152F and got 150F. If I were doing it again (w/ 05 at least), I's shoot for 154F.Twelve may have tasted sweeter in comparison to the 05. I tasted the 05 first.Dang, 1.007? What was the grainbill?Dang (again), 1.012 was too sweet?
#11
Posted 30 July 2009 - 02:36 PM
He has gotten a buttery slickness to it in our IPAs DIPAs and a barleywine, all the same flavor. Maybe it is a fusel and not diacytel, but it is definitely off.I'm surprised your buddy got diacetyl at 70-72F.
#12
Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:16 PM
Just as an fyi, I've used the 05 frequently and tend to get the same/similar attenuation result on a mash at 148 as I do for 155. I'm beginning to think that with the 05 I should probably be overcompensating with cyrstal instead of focusing on the mash temp. What do you think?I wanted 152F and got 150F. If I were doing it again (w/ 05 at least), I's shoot for 154F.
#13
Posted 30 July 2009 - 07:34 PM
I can see that. I rarely brew the same thing often enough to get a feel for that kind of thing.Just as an fyi, I've used the 05 frequently and tend to get the same/similar attenuation result on a mash at 148 as I do for 155. I'm beginning to think that with the 05 I should probably be overcompensating with cyrstal instead of focusing on the mash temp. What do you think?
#14
Posted 31 July 2009 - 05:37 AM
Perception of sweetness is a funny thing. I just kegged an IPA that I accidentally mashed 3-4 degrees high and it finished at 1.020, but it doesn't seem very sweet at all.The bill was essentially the bill for CJ's Rising Sun JPA with a couple small subs for availability. Mash was a bit cooler than I'd planned because I simply couldn't get enough water in the cooler. I wanted 152F and got 150F. If I were doing it again (w/ 05 at least), I's shoot for 154F.Twelve may have tasted sweeter in comparison to the 05. I tasted the 05 first.
Edited by JKoravos, 31 July 2009 - 05:37 AM.
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