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[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

5 gallon batch7lbs US 2-Row6lbs Munich1lbs Crystal 65Lestimated OG: 1.071estimated SRM: 13.32First I'd like to focus on the grain bill. How does this look? Will this be too malty b/c of the Munich?For hops I have a pretty good variety to choose from that I think would work: Magnum, Glacier (only 2oz of this), Cascade, WilliametteThanks in advance for any and all feedback

[stellarbrew]

I think 6 lbs of Munich would be absolutely delicious, especially if you balanced it adequately with hops. However, I think it will be way too malty to fall within BJCP guidelines for an American IPA. If you plan to enter into a comp, and you wish to have the right maltiness for style, I'd limit the Munich to no more than 1/2 to 1 lb, and make the rest up with 2-row. That's my non-professional opinion.

Edited by stellarbrew, 28 May 2009 - 05:29 PM.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I think 6 lbs of Munich would be absolutely delicious, especially if you balanced it adequately with hops. However, I think it will be way too malty to fall within BJCP guidelines for an American IPA. If you plan to enter into a comp, and you wish to have the right maltiness for style, I'd limit the Munich to no more than 1/2 to 1 lb, and make the rest up with 2-row. That's my non-professional opinion.

Competition entry is not happening as far as I know. Denny sometimes makes IPAs with 100% Munich which is what inspired me to formulate this recipe with a lot of Munich.

[Big Nake]

I'm not an IPA head, but I would also think that's just a waste of Munich. I like to use a lot of Munich on my Oktober, but I think more standard pale malt would be better for an IPA. Good luck.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I'm not an IPA head, but I would also think that's just a waste of Munich. I like to use a lot of Munich on my Oktober, but I think more standard pale malt would be better for an IPA. Good luck.

The only waste of munich is not using it

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Take 2:

Grain Bill:

7lbs US 2-row
5lbs Munich
1lbs Crystal 65L
1lbs White Wheat

Mash around 149-150F

Estimated SRM: 13
Estimated OG: 1.071

Hop Additions:

1oz Glacier FWH
1.25oz Magnum 60min
2oz Williamette 5min
2oz Cascade 1min

Estimated IBU: 68.12

Yeast:

1056 American

Thoughts?

[ncbeerbrewer]

I liked your first recipe and I think your second recipe is good as well. I don't see any reason not to try and use a good bunch of Munich. Its a great malt. For the second I would say add one more lb of 2 Row and drop the Wheat and Caramel by a .5lb each. I think the wheat will do well for head retention and the lesser caramel willl allow for less residual sugars. I like to limit caramel malts to a half pound for 5 gallon batches. Hops look great. Let us know how it turns out.

[denny]

I'm not an IPA head, but I would also think that's just a waste of Munich.

You might think that, but I'd say you're wrong!

[denny]

Take 2: Thoughts?

I'd lose the wheat malt. Assuming you;re adding it for head retention, I just don't think it's necessary.

Edited by denny, 29 May 2009 - 12:14 PM.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I'd lose the wheat malt. Assuming you;re adding it for head retention, I just don't think it's necessary.

You are correct - if I skipped the wheat I'd probably go back to my original grain bill. Are my planned hop additions enough to balance out with the maltiness I'll have in this recipe?

[denny]

Are my planned hop additions enough to balance out with the maltiness I'll have in this recipe?

Probably, depending on your tastes. For AIPA, I like to go at least 1:1 BU:GU if not a bit more.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Probably, depending on your tastes. For AIPA, I like to go at least 1:1 BU:GU if not a bit more.

IBU to OG? Just want to make sure I'm following you... so in this case I'm slightly below 1:1?

[DaBearSox]

this should help you



however sometimes i think it should be 5-10 more IBUs

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

this should help you



however sometimes i think it should be 5-10 more IBUs

I'm about 5-10 over the high end of extra hoppy. Sounds about right

[NomNomHopzinator]

Nice graph, thanks for throwing it up here.

[Malzig]

I think that graph is misleading by being skewed toward the malty.It suggests that a BU:GU of 0.9 is off scale and more than "extra hoppy", while 1 is the ROT for an IPA, in my mind.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I think that graph is misleading by being skewed toward the malty. It suggests that a BU:GU of 0.9 is off scale and more than "extra hoppy", while 1 is the ROT for an IPA, in my mind.

Good to know.

[earthtone]

I think that graph is misleading by being skewed toward the malty.
It suggests that a BU:GU of 0.9 is off scale and more than "extra hoppy", while 1 is the ROT for an IPA, in my mind.

there FTFY....

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

there FTFY....

Haha - nice work

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Yeast starter for this beer is rocking out hard right now. I made a big 3.5L starter for this to be safe