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[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I bought these hops specifically for my rare vos clone so now I have slightly less than a pound of each. What are good choices for them? It seems unlikely be making any czech pilsners this year and probably should stick to ales. What do you guys think?

[jayb151]

A good bitter would be good with those Goldings.

[Mya]

A good bitter would be good with those Goldings.

+1 great for most English stylesthe Saaz could be used in a hoppy Amber-Brown heavy on the caramelly tones

[siouxbrewer]

Belgians, especially golden strongs and tripels come to mind. Hard to go wrong with a bitter or mild.

[EWW]

Sazz are great in a cream ale or blonde - great lager hop as well.S. Goldings work well in English and Belgian beers as mentioned above

[MtnBrewer]

Belgians, any lager, most British ales, altbier.

[Big Nake]

I really like Styrian Golding. It's used in a lot of English ales and I usually see it's country of origin being Slovenia... which is weird when you consider English recipes use it. I think you could use it anywhere you would like a clean hop including an English ale, Belgian (as mentioned) but even a blonde ale, red, amber, cream ale, etc. On the Saaz, again, if you're not going to make lagers, use them in a nice blonde/cream ale and give a little Noble profile to an ale. Nothing wrong with it. I'll admit that I typically don't buy Saaz unless I'm going to try to make something along the lines of a Czech Lager. Cheers.

[MtnBrewer]

I really like Styrian Golding. It's used in a lot of English ales and I usually see it's country of origin being Slovenia... which is weird when you consider English recipes use it.

It's Fuggle grown in Slovenia.

[EWW]

It's Fuggle grown in Slovenia.

But it seems to be a more mild fuggle due to the soil/ climate in Slovenia

[MtnBrewer]

But it seems to be a more mild fuggle due to the soil/ climate in Slovenia

For sure. I wasn't hating, just pointing out why they work well in British ales. I love SG, one of my favorites in lots of styles.

[zymot]

Take the minimalist challenge. Brew a SMaSH beer with saaz. SMaSH = Single Malt and Single Hop.Example. My LHBS carries Belgian Pale malt. Or you cold go Maris Otter, Golden Pomise, Vienna etc. Use 10-12 pounds of malt and employ bitter, flavor and aroma additions of saaz.Pure simple elegent beer. The saaz are such a great hop all by themselves, you won't go wrong.

[Big Nake]

For sure. I wasn't hating, just pointing out why they work well in British ales. I love SG, one of my favorites in lots of styles.

Oh yeah, I can't remember if I had heard that before or not. Yeah, they seem cleaner and better than a Fuggle would be... maybe less Earthy or something. I could see SGs being used in a nice Czech or German Pilsner, although I realize Zym said to lay off the lager suggestions. Cheers.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Oh yeah, I can't remember if I had heard that before or not. Yeah, they seem cleaner and better than a Fuggle would be... maybe less Earthy or something. I could see SGs being used in a nice Czech or German Pilsner, although I realize Zym said to lay off the lager suggestions. Cheers.

yeah - my plan is to stick with only one lager yeast per year and this year it's still 2308. next year it will be something else I guess. I also can't do more than 2-3 lagers per year just b/c I only have so much space for lagering.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

altbier.

are you referring to the saaz here or the goldings?

[zymot]

are you referring to the saaz here or the goldings?

For an alt, use saaz.If you have never made an alt, it is strongly reccomended that you do.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

For an alt, use saaz.If you have never made an alt, it is strongly reccomended that you do.

I have not. But I will. I will be using 1056 which I know isn't quite as good as 1007 but I think if I ferment cool enough it will do the job

[MtnBrewer]

are you referring to the saaz here or the goldings?

Either one or both would be great in an altbier.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

Either one or both would be great in an altbier.

interesting. I wouldn't expect a hop that is great for english ales to also be good for an alt.

[MtnBrewer]

interesting. I wouldn't expect a hop that is great for english ales to also be good for an alt.

Sedlmayr felt that it should be included in the noble class.

[Jimmy James]

I love me some Styrian Goldings. IMO possibly the most versatile hop in existence. Great anytime in the boil or as dry hops, and play well with all sorts of styles. If I could only have one hop...blah blah blah...