Using wood chips need help
#1
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:23 AM
#2
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:37 AM
#3
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:39 AM
should I let it soak for a little while?thanks TagIf you can reach the bottom, I would recommend Bar Keeper's Friend cleanser (or any other stainless steel cleanser) and a scrubby.
#4
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:49 AM
I've never had anything in my kettle that BKF wouldn't take care of...it's good stuff. I guess if it's really dirty you could let it soak in oxyclean or PBW and then hit it with the BKF.should I let it soak for a little while?thanks Tag
#5
Posted 31 May 2010 - 08:00 AM
#6
Posted 31 May 2010 - 12:31 PM
so do you throw your oak chips in the keg? or secondary?3rd the BKF. Make a paste out of it then scrub. The boiling of PBW can work as well. I use BKF after every brew day.Your timing is right on the oak. You can buy the oak in the little saks and that is about the right amount for a 5g batch. I usually soak the chips in starsan just for a few minutes. I add them to a hop sak. Tie some fishing line to the hop sak so it can easily be retrieved. You can do this in keg easily.
#7
Posted 31 May 2010 - 02:22 PM
Both, but with a caveat. If I do it in secondary, I make sure the yeast has fallen clear before adding oak. Nothing worse than having your beer over oaked and still have yeast suspended. I feel the same way about dry hopping too.so do you throw your oak chips in the keg? or secondary?
#8
Posted 01 June 2010 - 06:29 AM
#9
Posted 01 June 2010 - 07:55 AM
Good catch. I agree that you not going to get smoke from chips alone. The use of Char will be closer, but the only way to get smoke flavor into your beer is with smoked malt of some sorts. There are a few different ways to do that but can be explained if its something you really are researching vs the use of oak.If you are doing a Rauche-esque beer wouldn't you want to add smoked malt as opposed to chips? I guess a heavy char would impart some smoke but more of an oakiness? I would think the smoked malt would do better.I don't know just guessing, really. Good luck.
#10
Posted 01 June 2010 - 08:51 AM
Why create work for yourself with scrubbing? Oxy will take it off just fine. My BK was getting a bit on the nasty side and I loaded it up with hot water and Oxy-free and let it sit for a week. Just took some light scrubbing with a sponge to get the last remnants off.I've never had anything in my kettle that BKF wouldn't take care of...it's good stuff. I guess if it's really dirty you could let it soak in oxyclean or PBW and then hit it with the BKF.
#11
Posted 01 June 2010 - 03:08 PM
#12
Posted 01 June 2010 - 03:22 PM
#13
Posted 02 June 2010 - 05:57 AM
The recipe looks fine. I'd change the hop additions from 45,30,15,1 to 15,10,5,0. Don't use more than an ounce of oak chips. I wouldn't want any smoked malt in this beer, but that's MO.well thanks guys for all the advice, as far as trying to get a smoked flavor I just figured the oak chips would be kinda cool to use (ive never used the before) as far as the recipe I put together its below, would anyone add or take anything away? Ingredients:10.00 lb American 2-row0.50 lb Crystal 600.25 lb White Wheat Malt1 oz Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min0.50 oz Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 45 min0.50 oz Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 30 min0.50 oz Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 15 min1.0 tsp Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 15.0 min0.50 oz Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 1.0 minOak Wood Chips - added dry to secondary fermenter
#14
Posted 02 June 2010 - 06:27 AM
I've found that Starsan works the same for cleaning the kettle. The problem with oxyclean is you have to thoroughly rinse it out, which can take time.Why create work for yourself with scrubbing? Oxy will take it off just fine. My BK was getting a bit on the nasty side and I loaded it up with hot water and Oxy-free and let it sit for a week. Just took some light scrubbing with a sponge to get the last remnants off.
#15
Posted 02 June 2010 - 01:51 PM
I fill the BK about 1/3 full, take a sponge and wipe down the sides and bottom, dump the water and spray with a high pressure nozzle. So Starsan will clean it up too? I suppose I could try that, but the oxy is cheaper (at Big Lots).I've found that Starsan works the same for cleaning the kettle. The problem with oxyclean is you have to thoroughly rinse it out, which can take time.
#16
Posted 02 June 2010 - 05:55 PM
The main reason is time...I prefer a couple of minutes cleaning with BKF over letting it soak.Why create work for yourself with scrubbing? Oxy will take it off just fine. My BK was getting a bit on the nasty side and I loaded it up with hot water and Oxy-free and let it sit for a week. Just took some light scrubbing with a sponge to get the last remnants off.
#17
Posted 02 June 2010 - 07:48 PM
Thanks I just may change that up on the hop additions, thanks for the heads up on the oak chips.The recipe looks fine. I'd change the hop additions from 45,30,15,1 to 15,10,5,0. Don't use more than an ounce of oak chips. I wouldn't want any smoked malt in this beer, but that's MO.
#18
Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:44 AM
Some guys in my brewclub added 6 oz of oak chips to a 5 gallon batch. Tasted like a 2x4. It was a shame since the base beer was pretty good.Thanks I just may change that up on the hop additions, thanks for the heads up on the oak chips.
#19
Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:50 AM
6oz is a little much, but time is the most important.Some guys in my brewclub added 6 oz of oak chips to a 5 gallon batch. Tasted like a 2x4. It was a shame since the base beer was pretty good.
#20
Posted 03 June 2010 - 01:26 PM
I'd say time is equally as important as amount. From my experience you get a different flavor with more oak for a short time vs less oak for a long time. You need to experiment to find the right balance. That said, I can't think of any amount of time that 6 oz would be good in 5 gals... maybe if the oak was in a randall or something.6oz is a little much, but time is the most important.
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