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#21 ncbeerbrewer

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 04:52 PM

I know there has been lots and lots of discussion but one point I wanted to make is the use of a secondary vessel being a plastic bucket. I have one plastic bucket that I used for wine when I made it years ago and no matter how much I clean or soak it and regardless of what beer style goes into it I have seen the same mold spot and all. I have tasted the beers and they have been fine, racked from below the top layer, kegged, carbed and drank every drop. As the OP says let it carb and drink up, you will be fine. It it taste bad then I say dump it.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:09 PM

Yeah, maybe the first millimeter. The other 20 inches under that might be just fine though. :cheers:

Touche kinda means I concede your point. But now that you got me going again. I had 3 batches in a row look much like that photo. Started with gushers. Then bottle bombs. I asked around and was told to relax, drink em up fast and be careful about sanitation but now I dont totally agree. 10 years and a lot of batches later. This is a perfect time to look at the brewery. $5 with of tubing. Cheap racking cane or bottle filler. Bucket with even the slightest scratch would be gone in my brewery. It might be overreacting to say to just chuck it all, but I'm not talking about a glycol jacketed ss conical.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 12:03 AM

Touche kinda means I concede your point. But now that you got me going again. I had 3 batches in a row look much like that photo. Started with gushers. Then bottle bombs. I asked around and was told to relax, drink em up fast and be careful about sanitation but now I dont totally agree. 10 years and a lot of batches later. This is a perfect time to look at the brewery. $5 with of tubing. Cheap racking cane or bottle filler. Bucket with even the slightest scratch would be gone in my brewery. It might be overreacting to say to just chuck it all, but I'm not talking about a glycol jacketed ss conical.

Sorry man, I didn't intend to come off like I was trying to hammer it home. Sorry if it came off that way. I was just conversing about the subject matter.*buys first virtual round of pints* :frank: :cheers:

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:40 AM

This is one reason I have a number of buckets now, stainless racking cane, and use silicone tubing. The buckets so I can throw them away if I find them suspicious enough, and it won't cost me too much (I do have glass, but I don't want to use it for beer, and I don't have the money for conicals), the stainless racking cane so I can just put it in the oven if I ever need to sterilize it, and the silicone tubing because for some reason I trust it much more, and I can circulate boiling water through it if necessary. I think I can even pressure sterilize it in the canner if I wanted to.I moved away from plastic racking canes when I broke a couple at the crook, and I also moved away from vinyl transfer tubing because I had to replace it so often. I pretty much use silicone tubing for all my transferring applications, even on my brewing system (and I've been using the same silicone tubing for over 3 years now). Despite the higher initial cost of the tubing, I am pretty sure it has actually saved me money by now.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:54 AM

This is one reason I have a number of buckets now, stainless racking cane, and use silicone tubing. The buckets so I can throw them away if I find them suspicious enough, and it won't cost me too much (I do have glass, but I don't want to use it for beer, and I don't have the money for conicals), the stainless racking cane so I can just put it in the oven if I ever need to sterilize it, and the silicone tubing because for some reason I trust it much more, and I can circulate boiling water through it if necessary. I think I can even pressure sterilize it in the canner if I wanted to.I moved away from plastic racking canes when I broke a couple at the crook, and I also moved away from vinyl transfer tubing because I had to replace it so often. I pretty much use silicone tubing for all my transferring applications, even on my brewing system (and I've been using the same silicone tubing for over 3 years now). Despite the higher initial cost of the tubing, I am pretty sure it has actually saved me money by now.

+1 SS racking cane and silicone tubing will save you money in the long run. Break two auto siphons and you'll kick yourself that you didn't buy better quality in the first place.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:40 PM

*buys first virtual round of pints* :cheers: :chug:

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:10 PM

I've had that white film stuff on my beers a bunch of times. It usually happens when I'm farting around in the fermenter after the fermentation is over, like dry hopping or something. I usually rack out from under it without any type of problem.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 08:45 AM

I have totally racked out a heavily infected brew from under the surface crust and drank the entire batch mmmmmmmm wild flavour contributions.

I brewed up about 7 gals of mild one time, and only kegged 5. The other 2 gals sat in the fermenter for about 3 months, and eventually grew a small pellicle before I got around to kegging it. I really thought I'd have to dump it, but it turned out great. It had a touch of that cherry pie aroma, and a really great earthiness that made it so much more interesting than the original 5 gals.Let us know how this one turns out. Could be a one-of-a-kind beer that you'll never be able to replicate.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 09:18 AM

I'm thinking that if the beer is in kegs now, it's really not a big deal.If you were bottling i would say keep an eye on it, but in a keg you have nothing to worry about. Just drink it up and you'll be fine...as long as it tastes like something you want to drink!

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 09:40 PM

It does look a little suspect. I wouldn't worry about it. Possible infection..unsure.I'm only going by my own experience as I've never seen that on my brews before. +1 DRINK UP!!

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:18 AM

I've had that white film stuff on my beers a bunch of times. It usually happens when I'm farting around in the fermenter after the fermentation is over, like dry hopping or something. I usually rack out from under it without any type of problem.

you fart in your fermenter.....???? :D :P :devil:

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:54 AM

Yeah ET, its the aroma addition

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:09 PM

Yeah, my flatulence is quite citrusy and pungent. I use quite a bit in my IFA.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:34 PM

Yeah ET, its the aroma addition

:P haha you said "aroma addition"

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 05:30 PM

Update: I ended up dumping the beer this evening.I over-carbed it, dropped the pressure some,it ran through the line clean and went to glass slightly cloudy.After a couple of minutes i drank about 1/2 glass and decided i could not drink 2 more gallons of this.It had a Solvent taste too it and i decided it was easier to let it go. "when in doubt throw it out" so they say. But its beer so that changes things.I revisited my notes several times.It's not like i don't have good beer to drink so i shall survive. :cheers:


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