Hmmmmm....seems like the same sort of issue to me.Yea, we all know that you always taste your beer and enter it in the corresponding category, but i don't think this is what the OP was talking about and not really the same thing.
Is "doctoring a beer cheating?
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:27 AM
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:27 AM
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:54 AM
#24
Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:17 AM
LOLand a sanitation relay.
#25
Posted 04 January 2010 - 01:32 PM
Since I don't have access to the magazine right now, I'm not sure if you mean the original article or the reader's reply. For me, whatever, same thing. My response remains unchangedJust an unfortunate use of the word "doctoring". For many people that word implies cheating. If instead he had said "blending to fine tune" would there have been the same reaction?- Jim
Seriously! I had the good fortune to meet Armand Debelder of 3 Fonteinen during my time here in Europe. It's tragic what happened to his brewery, but that guy's passion for blending and tasting lambic is palpable. He didn't strike us as the scientific type of fellow, and even talked down about himself when it comes to that, but he has worked at and mastered the art of blending. I'm not about to tell him that his beers cannot be entered a competition, and he doesn't even blend his own beer most of the time (or perhaps ever again). There is one bottle I bought from him which he calls Millennium. I think it has lambics from 5 different breweries in there. If that is ever entered into a competition, I'd love it for someone to dare call him a cheater. Vegetarians would eat that person for lunch.Now, to be clear, when it comes to homebrew competitions, I think only homebrew should be entered. But in the spirit of Armand (not Armand's Spirit which is a liquor he made after the tragedy), I say that any homebrew blended should be allowed. If I take two of my friends homebrews, and blend them to make a new beer that is fantastic, I say let it go. It contains no commercial beer and I made it.I read the article right after I finished reading "Wild Brews" for the first time (Xmas present), and I thought the tone of the letter was rather dismissive of the skill described in the book needed to blend well. If the author thinks that blending to taste is cheating, perhaps he should start a "technical" brewing competition of his own. He could have events like "closest to target S.G", "highest attenuation", and a sanitation relay.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 02:13 PM
#27
Posted 04 January 2010 - 02:30 PM
I believe that Belgium is unique in that there are people that do nothing but blend beer. Armand is one such person and he is evidently extremely good at it. Since there are so many variables in lambic production, the only way to attain any sort of consistency year to year is to blend. This is common in the wine world (non-vintage champagne for example) but pretty unusual in the beer world as far as I know.Seriously! I had the good fortune to meet Armand Debelder of 3 Fonteinen during my time here in Europe. It's tragic what happened to his brewery, but that guy's passion for blending and tasting lambic is palpable. He didn't strike us as the scientific type of fellow, and even talked down about himself when it comes to that, but he has worked at and mastered the art of blending. I'm not about to tell him that his beers cannot be entered a competition, and he doesn't even blend his own beer most of the time (or perhaps ever again). There is one bottle I bought from him which he calls Millennium. I think it has lambics from 5 different breweries in there. If that is ever entered into a competition, I'd love it for someone to dare call him a cheater. Vegetarians would eat that person for lunch.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:22 PM
#29
Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:32 PM
Agreed,never done it myself.Only fear i have is two off flavored beers.I don't see a problem with blending.
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