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#1 Darterboy

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Posted 12 September 2022 - 12:40 PM

Quote from British beer historian Ron Pattinson on his blog returning from a recent Pacific Northwest vacation.

 

"I was a bit disappointed with the beer choice in most taprooms. These were the options mostly: IPA, Sludge IPA, Sour, Sludge IPA with fruit, Sour with fruit, Sludge IPA with fruit and shit, sour with fruit and shit, Pilsner. Other than a couple of Porters, almost no dark beers of any description."

 

I feel you Ron!  :smilielol: 



#2 BrewerGeorge

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Posted 12 September 2022 - 12:44 PM

Yep



#3 denny

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Posted 12 September 2022 - 12:58 PM

depends on where you are and where you go.



#4 3rd party JKor

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Posted 12 September 2022 - 02:41 PM

Heck, porters aren't bad even a stout.  I feel for you if you get a hankering for a brown ale.



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Posted 13 September 2022 - 04:10 AM

Quote from British beer historian Ron Pattinson on his blog returning from a recent Pacific Northwest vacation.

 

"I was a bit disappointed with the beer choice in most taprooms. These were the options mostly: IPA, Sludge IPA, Sour, Sludge IPA with fruit, Sour with fruit, Sludge IPA with fruit and shit, sour with fruit and shit, Pilsner. Other than a couple of Porters, almost no dark beers of any description."

 

I feel you Ron!  :smilielol: 

Sounds like he goes to the wrong taprooms.

 

ETA:  I still find it funny people harping on hazy IPAs that are "sludge".  At least around me those are going for the most part.  Yeah we have hazy IPAs but not the ones that had sediment up the ass like back when they first started.


Edited by HVB, 13 September 2022 - 04:11 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2022 - 02:38 PM

Sounds like he goes to the wrong taprooms.

ETA: I still find it funny people harping on hazy IPAs that are "sludge". At least around me those are going for the most part. Yeah we have hazy IPAs but not the ones that had sediment up the ass like back when they first started.


Yep. I love them but I would also appreciate a little more variety at some places. So I get that part but calling them sludge is typically inaccurate.

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Posted 13 September 2022 - 03:01 PM

The Zoe-Dog Brewco in Charleston, SC always has 5 diverse beers on tap!!!!!!!

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Posted 14 September 2022 - 05:32 AM

Yep. I love them but I would also appreciate a little more variety at some places. So I get that part but calling them sludge is typically inaccurate.

Not around here. Dogfish has resisted and only makes a slightly hazy IPA and a proper fruited sour amongst the normal diverse lineup. Most other small breweries have a complete lineup of either very cloudy (won't even call it hazy anymore) IPAs or sours that appear to be 90% fruit puree.

Occasionally you can get a stout but I hope you like donuts and breakfast cereal in it



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Posted 14 September 2022 - 06:08 AM

Place near my house has the following on tap

 3 - IPA ( 1 is a west coast)

1 - IIPA

1 - IIIPA

1-APA

1-Kolsch

2 - Lager 

2 - Stouts

 

Decent enough variety for me.  Sad part is everyone complains about IPAs but as a business owner they would be silly to not have them since they are a cash cow.



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Posted 14 September 2022 - 01:45 PM

Place near my house has the following on tap
3 - IPA ( 1 is a west coast)
1 - IIPA
1 - IIIPA
1-APA
1-Kolsch
2 - Lager
2 - Stouts

Decent enough variety for me. Sad part is everyone complains about IPAs but as a business owner they would be silly to not have them since they are a cash cow.


Agreed on all that. Nice tap list.

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Posted 26 September 2022 - 03:19 PM

Credit where it's due I had a fantastic 4.9% Brown Ale at the Brewing Projekt in Eau Claire, WI. this weekend. One I could drink all day. Great body and clear nutty toasty notes. So good, but yeah, pretty uncommon find these days.



#12 MakeMeHoppy

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Posted 27 September 2022 - 01:54 PM

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Edited by MakeMeHoppy, 27 September 2022 - 01:54 PM.


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Posted 27 September 2022 - 03:36 PM

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Hard pass!

#14 porter

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Posted 27 September 2022 - 03:38 PM

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Posted 27 September 2022 - 05:00 PM

I think we need to remember that beers like that are largely made for the generation that grew up sucking over-sugared yogurt and applesauce from a tube.

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Posted 27 September 2022 - 05:14 PM

I think we need to remember that beers like that are largely made for the generation that grew up sucking over-sugared yogurt and applesauce from a tube.


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Posted 27 September 2022 - 06:57 PM

Blech

Exactly



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Posted 28 September 2022 - 03:52 AM

Exactly

 

I've had some nice sour beers with fruit (e.g. raspberry Berliner Weisse)so certainly no issue there but holy hell that beer has way too much other crap added to it.


Edited by postSingularityHumanoid, 28 September 2022 - 04:09 AM.


#19 MakeMeHoppy

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Posted 28 September 2022 - 05:49 AM

I went to the BJCP guidelines and tried to find out where this would be classified. All of the ones close had a note something like...  and still resemble beer

Even if these are delicious drinks (I'll never know) can't they be made at an ice cream shop instead of a brewery?


Edited by MakeMeHoppy, 28 September 2022 - 05:50 AM.


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Posted 28 September 2022 - 07:14 PM

I've had some nice sour beers with fruit (e.g. raspberry Berliner Weisse)so certainly no issue there but holy hell that beer has way too much other crap added to it.

Yeah, I had a strawberry rhubarb Berliner this past weekend. It was great. Just a little strawberry in the nose and not too much else. No added sweetness, very enjoyable.




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