That sounds threatening. I challenge you to a duel! MY cubes are pretty crappy. One was tossed around on a plane from Texas with 80 pounds of fish in it, the other has been abused as well. Both the lids are caving in a bit from people sitting on them and I had to put RTV in the drain to keep them from leaking when I use them as a swamp cooler. I would like a new, really good, well insulated cooler, so I don't have to worry about that variable, thats all. Your cube might work just fine and I have no problem with that.I have two 15.5 kegs I am turning into boil pots and the cooler will be the mash tun. If I had a third I would use that. Cheers,RichThats just not true at all. Everybody has an opinion sure, but i have to whole heatedly disagree. But going by your thoughts, you can say that about any cooler to mash in. You say your wanting a dedicated MT, a cooler can be one, but if you want something to last and last, you need to find something in SS. Then i could agree with your statement as a comparative.
Best Cooler for a Mash - Up to 10 gal brews
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 06:54 AM
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 06:56 AM
if you abuse the xtreme I would expect similar results honestly. I just use mine for brewing so it's a fairly easy life for that cooler. The one thing I'm noticing is that the inside is bubbling a little bit from the extreme heat. This hasn't caused any cracks or anything yet though and it seems to not be getting any worse.That sounds threatening. I challenge you to a duel! MY cubes are pretty crappy. One was tossed around on a plane from Texas with 80 pounds of fish in it, the other has been abused as well. Both the lids are caving in a bit from people sitting on them and I had to put RTV in the drain to keep them from leaking when I use them as a swamp cooler. I would like a new, really good, well insulated cooler, so I don't have to worry about that variable, thats all. Your cube might work just fine and I have no problem with that.I have two 15.5 kegs I am turning into boil pots and the cooler will be the mash tun. If I had a third I would use that. Cheers,Rich
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 07:16 AM
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 07:58 AM
Yeah, I have to agree here. I know a LOT of brewers use them as mash tuns, so I guess there is something to them. My 60qt model performed pitifully as a regular cooler (ice melts VERY quickly), so I can't see it being a great mash tun. To each his own, I guess.They DO, however, make excellent fermentation coolers. I actually just stick a carboy in there with a couple of frozen 20oz bottles of water, then wrap a couple of heavy towels on the top (no water in the cooler). Changing the ice bottles twice a day held a ferm temp of 67 degrees fairly easily and turned out an outstanding Rye APA.Yeah, I don't want to use the cubes, they are cheap mediocre coolers at best.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 08:03 AM
I knew it. You were using your Cubes for various tasks Yea, I can agree that if people sat on the Cubes and they were tossed around with 80#'s of fish on a plane that i could see them getting banged up after awhile. I just use mine for brewing and for nothing else. But im thinking any cooler after awhile would break down when being roughed up a bit....For 10-12g batches I use two Keggles and a Cube. For 15-24g batches i break out my two 25g SS Kettles and use my 48qt or 60qt flat bottom Cubes. If I'm doing a large BW or something, I will use both my Cubes and fill them up full with a combined 70-74# of grain depending on mash thickness. I will then take the first running's off each Cube then sparge the second running's from each for a second beer. Doing that i can get 22g of a Century beer and 10g of a smaller 1.048 beer.That sounds threatening. I challenge you to a duel! MY cubes are pretty crappy. One was tossed around on a plane from Texas with 80 pounds of fish in it, the other has been abused as well. Both the lids are caving in a bit from people sitting on them I have two 15.5 kegs I am turning into boil pots and the cooler will be the mash tun. If I had a third I would use that. Cheers,Rich
The only time i had a cooler warp on the inside was when i used a 10g Rubbermaid. The Rubbermaid worked fine, but i didn't prefer the grain depth/width ratio. The Cube is superior to that. And the Rubbermaid was harder to dough in because of its shape.if you abuse the xtreme I would expect similar results honestly. I just use mine for brewing so it's a fairly easy life for that cooler. The one thing I'm noticing is that the inside is bubbling a little bit from the extreme heat. This hasn't caused any cracks or anything yet though and it seems to not be getting any worse.
Nope, the thermal mass alone keeps heat loss to a bare minimum. The only time i may have a slight 2* drop is when the Cube is half full of grain in a hr. long mash. Which never happens around here Otherwise, thermal mass is your best friend.Yeah, I have to agree here. I know a LOT of brewers use them as mash tuns, so I guess there is something to them. My 60qt model performed pitifully as a regular cooler (ice melts VERY quickly), so I can't see it being a great mash tun. To each his own, I guess.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 08:08 AM
I've heard of this problem with other coolers. The warping took a few batches to start to become noticeable and part of it is that I add in 180-190F water into the cooler to preheat it before I add in grains.The only time i had a cooler warp on the inside was when i used a 10g Rubbermaid. The Rubbermaid worked fine, but i didn't prefer the grain depth/width ratio. The Cube is superior to that. And the Rubbermaid was harder to dough in because of its shape.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 09:17 AM
Yeah, which is why the cooler I get for the Mash Tun will be a dedicated brewing cooler.I knew it. You were using your Cubes for various tasks Yea, I can agree that if people sat on the Cubes and they were tossed around with 80#'s of fish on a plane that i could see them getting banged up after awhile. I just use mine for brewing and for nothing else. But im thinking any cooler after awhile would break down when being roughed up a bit....
Sheesh, I haven't even brewed an AG batch or a batch over 5 gallons off the stove top and now I gotta do 12.5 gallons? If I get the cooler and some conversion kits for Christmas then I will probably be able to do AG in a couple months. I'm gonna need a turkey fryer and some more carboys.For those of you that do batches over 5 gallons... What do you ferment in? Do you get a big conical fermentor or do you just split everything up into carboys or buckets?Cheers,RichFor keggles I recommend a 70 qt extreme.Whewn doing barleywines grab a 150qt extreme.And step up to 12.5 gal batches while you're at it.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 09:48 AM
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Posted 02 December 2009 - 05:24 PM
I have to second that. It's the only cooler I've used. Did have the first one crack in a corner after about 100 batches. The second seems to be holding up better. I think when I started underletting it reduced the thermal shock to the plastic. And it's easy to set up for a braid or manifold. I've made 11.5 gal batches around 1.080 (no sugar added) with plenty of room to spare. The geometry of the cube probably lends itself to better efficiency but I'm getting over 80% most of the time when I'm under 1.060........ Works at my place.70 qt. Extreme
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