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#1 denny

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Posted 05 April 2020 - 01:00 PM

One of the few Belgian beers my wife really like, probably because it's an extremely hoppy IPA.  Has anyone ever done one?  I'm thinking pils malt, maybe 15-20% sugar, OG 1.072-75.  Bitter with CTZ, Saaz at 5 or 10, dry hop with Amarillo.  WY3522. Thoughts?  Advice?


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Posted 05 April 2020 - 06:58 PM

I’ve had a couple. It always just seemed like just some IPA but reminding myself it’s Belgian. Kinda confusing

Sorry I have nothing. But interested in the outcome of this thread
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Posted 05 April 2020 - 09:34 PM

I love this stuff, too! Been working on a 20-Pack I got that includes 4 each of Duvel (another favorite!), Duvel Tripel Hop Citra, McChouffe (Brown Ale), LaChouffe (Blonde Ale), and Houblon Chouffe. (Gonna have one now!)

 

I think Pils and sugar for fermentables is right.

 

Their website says Tomahawk (CTZ), Saaz, and Amarillo. Bitter, flavor, and dry hop seems right, too...

 

https://chouffe.com/...oublon-chouffe/

 

I've no experience with Belgian yeasts! And I'm kinda sticking with dry yeast (for now).

 

I'd be up to try brewing something like this! (I've even been saving the short Belgian bottles!)


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:06 AM

Everything you posted looks right to post I have seen over the years.  

 

Brew it up!


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 08:26 AM

I remember trying to make something similar years ago and it turned out good, but far from a clone. 

 

I think you're on the right track though Denny! I've actually got a belgian ipa type thing coming up in the future as well.


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#6 denny

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 11:35 AM

Thanks everyone!  I'm starting the yeast and hope to brew tomorrow.  I'll keep ya in the loop.


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:25 PM

it's like a hoppy tripel isn't it? maybe 3787 which I've used for tripels...


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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:28 AM

it's like a hoppy tripel isn't it? maybe 3787 which I've used for tripels...


But 3522 is Chouffe yeast. It wouldn't taste right with anything else since the yeast is a huge part of the flavor profile. The beer is more like a Bekkgian American IPA that a hoppy tripel IMO. Slight distinction I guess.

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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:43 AM

But 3522 is Chouffe yeast. It wouldn't taste right with anything else since the yeast is a huge part of the flavor profile. The beer is more like a Bekkgian American IPA that a hoppy tripel IMO. Slight distinction I guess.

Like the difference between a NEIPA and a hazy pale ale?
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Posted 07 April 2020 - 12:07 PM

Like the difference between a NEIPA and a hazy pale ale?

Not exactly.  I consider Westmalle to be a fairly hoppy tripel, but still a tripel.  Houblon was obviously made to mimic American IPA, but with a Belgian twist.  I dunno, maybe not much of a distinction.


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Posted 07 April 2020 - 01:50 PM

Not exactly. I consider Westmalle to be a fairly hoppy tripel, but still a tripel. Houblon was obviously made to mimic American IPA, but with a Belgian twist. I dunno, maybe not much of a distinction.

I was just trying to rile you up!
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Posted 07 April 2020 - 03:45 PM

I was just trying to rile you up!


I will help you... JUICY!
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Posted 07 April 2020 - 11:37 PM

Not exactly.  I consider Westmalle to be a fairly hoppy tripel, but still a tripel.  Houblon was obviously made to mimic American IPA, but with a Belgian twist.  I dunno, maybe not much of a distinction.

 

Yeah, Houblon has an interesting blend of Belgian yeast notes with distinctly American hops; it's not just a hoppy Belgian beer. Plus it has an amazing, fluffy-white, meringue-like head!


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Posted 08 April 2020 - 01:44 AM

I wonder how such a recipe would work with Danstar Abbaye or Safbrew BE-256? Reportedly fast fermenters with high alcohol tolerance. I know it probably wouldn't be a perfect clone of Houblon, but it might still be interesting!

 

I find liquid yeast fiddly and am enjoying using dry yeast!


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Posted 08 April 2020 - 09:46 AM

I was just trying to rile you up!


You guys!

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Posted 08 April 2020 - 09:50 AM

I wonder how such a recipe would work with Danstar Abbaye or Safbrew BE-256? Reportedly fast fermenters with high alcohol tolerance. I know it probably wouldn't be a perfect clone of Houblon, but it might still be interesting!
 
I find liquid yeast fiddly and am enjoying using dry yeast!


Totally differently but as long as you're aware of that, probably not bad. I've tried several different yeast's with Belgian/American IPAs. As much as I love Rochefort and Westmalle yeastl i find that they have esters that dont pkkay nice with all the hops. Ardennes yeast has the phenolic that really support the hops.
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Posted 25 April 2020 - 01:53 PM

I think I'd leave out the sugar personally, years ago I did nearly the same and found the sugar made it drier than I liked. 


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