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[positiveContact]

So not exactly "to style". Sorry bjcp.

I don't have my brewing spreadsheet in front of me so this won't have exact numbers for everything.

9.0lbs best malz Pilsen malt
9.0lbs best malz Vienna malt
0.5lbs carapils/carapils copper

I know I have a little carapils left but probably not half a pound. I'm figuring I'll make up the difference with carapils copper.

Mash at 151f for 60 mins. No sparge style.

I'll probably use a combo of lactic acid and gypsum with a lesser amount of cacl to adjust the mash pH. Not sure if this is a beer where I should really try to keep the sulfate and chloride down or not.

30 min boil.
Probably all hallertau here for a total ibu of about 40.

Some at 30 mins
2oz at 5 mins
4oz at 0 mins

No dry hop on this one.

Ferment on Omega Bayern.

[HVB]

I would drink that. I did a 50/50 pils /Vienna beer before and remembered it being enjoyable. I would maybe mash a touch lower to really dry it out. I like a dry, crisp beer for the summer.

[positiveContact]

I would drink that. I did a 50/50 pils /Vienna beer before and remembered it being enjoyable. I would maybe mash a touch lower to really dry it out. I like a dry, crisp beer for the summer.

What are your thoughts on water profile?

[HVB]

What are your thoughts on water profile?

Sulfate 70-75
Chloride 30-40

Personal preference but that's what I like for these beers

[positiveContact]

So not crazy low or high. Got it!

[Poptop]

Nice easy recipe for nice easy drinking. Being a big Vienna fan, you can't go wrong.

[positiveContact]

so I probably only have about 1-2 oz of carafoam/carapils.  is carapils copper okay for something like this or will it contribute too much flavor?  maybe I should just go to the LHBS and acquire some carapils?

[HVB]

so I probably only have about 1-2 oz of carafoam/carapils.  is carapils copper okay for something like this or will it contribute too much flavor?  maybe I should just go to the LHBS and acquire some carapils?

 

CP Copper will work but may give you a bit more color than you want.  What about some flaked oats instead?

[neddles]

Or just add more Pils and Vienna. IME, a half pound of carapils will be indistinguishable in a 10 gallon batch.

 

 

CP Copper will work but may give you a bit more color than you want.  What about some flaked oats instead?

 

I'm going to guess you have read about it, but, have you ever experienced darkening of lighter beers when oats are used? I have not ( for the record) just read about it several times now.

[positiveContact]

Good point on the amount being very low. Maybe I'll just top off with the copper still. I don't mind a little extra golden color.

[HVB]

I'm going to guess you have read about it, but, have you ever experienced darkening of lighter beers when oats are used? I have not ( for the record) just read about it several times now.

I have not experienced it but have read about it like you have. I have to assume it is related to oxidation and how quickly it happens in those hazy IPAs with a good chunk of oats.

[positiveContact]

so one problem I had not planned on was with the short boil I need to add A LOT of hallertau to hit 40 IBUs.  I may stretch out the boil on this one to hit my IBUs.

[positiveContact]

I don't have any magnum for clean bitterness.

 

I do have nugget but not sure if that is clean enough.

[positiveContact]

Other options are amarillo, palisade and galena.  I very rarely want high IBUs that are also somewhat devoid of hop character.

[HVB]

so one problem I had not planned on was with the short boil I need to add A LOT of hallertau to hit 40 IBUs. I may stretch out the boil on this one to hit my IBUs.

Lol... I gave you 2 pounds! Nothing wrong with a charge of magnum at 30 to hit the ibu.


Eta - I should read all the posts before commenting!

Edited by drez77, 02 May 2018 - 05:41 PM.

[positiveContact]

Lol... I gave you 2 pounds! Nothing wrong with a charge of magnum at 30 to hit the ibu.


Eta - I should read all the posts before commenting!

I'm more worried that it will cause a plant derived flavor because of the volume of hops I'll have to use. Am I worrying about nothing?

[HVB]

How many oz at 30 would you need?

[positiveContact]

I think something like 5-6 oz because the aa is so low.

[HVB]

OUCH!! I would use the nugget or just go with a 60 minute boil in that case. 

 

Well, really I would just get a # of high alpha and call it good.

[positiveContact]

OUCH!! I would use the nugget or just go with a 60 minute boil in that case.

Well, really I would just get a # of high alpha and call it good.

Yeah, I'm thinking 45 with a little nugget mixed in won't be too crazy.