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[matt6150]

Planning on brewing with them tomorrow for the first time. I want to make a Rye PA and wanted to showcase the El Dorado. I need some suggestions on other hops that pair well? My plan for the beer is Apollo for bittering, Rye malt in the 25-30% range, pale malt and some crystal? Was thinking S-04 because that's what I have, but could run out and grab some US-05 or something as well. So need some guidance to finish this recipe, what do you guys think?

[neddles]

Sweet and fruity almost like gummy orange slices candy. I'd pair them with Simcoe or Chinook or both and, to my tastes, go no more than 50% of the flavor aroma hop bill with them. If you really want to showcase that fruit candy flavor go more.

[matt6150]

Ok, I can work with that. So they come off fairly sweet, so low on the crystal malt?

[neddles]

Ok, I can work with that. So they come off fairly sweet, so low on the crystal malt?

For my tastes, to keep it more drinkable, I would. Not that it couldn't be good otherwise. Or pick a crystal that is a little less sweet than others. 

[matt6150]

For my tastes, to keep it more drinkable, I would. Not that it couldn't be good otherwise. Or pick a crystal that is a little less sweet than others.

10-4. I still can't decide if I should go get some 05 or just stick with the 04? Not sure if the yeast and fruity hops will clash, although I'm sure it will be fine.

[neddles]

10-4. I still can't decide if I should go get some 05 or just stick with the 04? Not sure if the yeast and fruity hops will clash, although I'm sure it will be fine.

Ferment cool with 04, it will be good. Are you going all El Dorado or in combo with what?

[matt6150]

Ferment cool with 04, it will be good. Are you going all El Dorado or in combo with what?

I figure I will take your suggestion and go with Simcoe and some Chinook. El Dorado at 50%.

[neddles]

Matt, any idea how this came out yet?

[matt6150]

I will find out tonight. I have been on vacation for the last week and just got back early this morning. It has been carbing while I have been gone. So it's on the top of my priority list when I get home from work.

[matt6150]

So the beer turned out great! I can really pick out the El Dorado, it is much more orangy and sweet than say Citra or something. Very good. I will post my final recipe later today.

[neddles]

So the beer turned out great! I can really pick out the El Dorado, it is much more orangy and sweet than say Citra or something. Very good. I will post my final recipe later today.

Yeah that sounds like what I got from El Dorado. Glad it turned out good and definitely post up the recipe when you get a chance.

[positiveContact]

I almost bought this hop last time I put an order in.  maybe next year!

[chadm75]

Just brewed a Session Rye IPA (45 IBUs) over the weekend.  Bittered with Columbus and then did a 50/50 blend of El Dorado and Mosaic at 15 and FO.  Fermenting right now with 1272 at 68 deg.

 

There is a local brewery here that brews a hoppy blonde with El Dorado and I think, Centennial.  It's a unique flavor and aroma for sure.  

Edited by chadm75, 22 June 2016 - 07:38 AM.

[neddles]

Just made this. Would have preferred to use 1450 but timing when I was going to squeeze in the batch was getting tough. Been thinking about this hop combo since Matt brought it up a while back. 

 

1.062

IBU-43

 

75% 2-Row

20% Red Wheat

5% Carapils

Mash @147F/60min, 161F/15min

 

Apollo @30 to 43 IBU

 

60g El Dorado in 160F whirlpool

30g Chinook in 160F whirlpool

30g Simcoe in 160F whirlpool

 

60g El Dorado dry

30g Chinook dry

30g Simcoe dry

 

US-05

[positiveContact]

so no late boil hops.  interesting!

[HVB]

so no late boil hops. interesting!

43 ibu up front so I can see skipping any late hops and just go with the wp.

[neddles]

It is rare to never that I boil an American flavor/aroma hop in an IPA. I certainly did not need the IBUs.

[neddles]

That grain bill look familiar drez?

[HVB]

That grain bill look familiar drez?

You know it does!

[Genesee Ted]

I did something similar to this with El Dorados as part of the blend for the IIPA we just released on Saturday. Came out great.

I used resinate for the bittering to 60, and then no hops til WP and dry hops. I'm actually considering ditching the WP hops and using other varieties of resinate at the end and just dry hopping the shit out of it still.

El Dorados are great tho