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[HVB]

What say the board yes or no? 

 

And if yes, how do you go about calculating the size of the starter, do you just follow an online calculator or some other method.

 

 

[positiveContact]

What say the board yes or no? 

 

And if yes, how do you go about calculating the size of the starter, do you just follow an online calculator or some other method.

 

as a method to get more dry yeast I think it's fine.  no different than harvesting yeast from a batch made with dry yeast.

[denny]

JZ and many others say no..your choice....note that he says "generally"....

 

"Another case where you generally don't want to make a starter is with dry yeast. It is usually cheaper and easier to just buy more dry yeast than it would be to make a starter large enough for most dry yeast packs. Many experts suggest that placing dry yeasts in a starter would just deplete the reserves that the yeast manufacturer worked so hard to build into their product. For dry yeasts, just do a proper rehydration in tap water, do not make a starter."

[positiveContact]

JZ and many others say no..your choice....note that he says "generally"....

 

"Another case where you generally don't want to make a starter is with dry yeast. It is usually cheaper and easier to just buy more dry yeast than it would be to make a starter large enough for most dry yeast packs. Many experts suggest that placing dry yeasts in a starter would just deplete the reserves that the yeast manufacturer worked so hard to build into their product. For dry yeasts, just do a proper rehydration in tap water, do not make a starter."

 

they may have been good advice when dry yeast was really cheap but the real issue I believe is that drez has one packet and doesn't have access to another and would like to brew this weekend.  is there a good reason for him to not make a starter and try to boost his cell count?

[Steve Urquell]

I do my drauflassen starters with 1 pack of dry lager yeast and 1 gallon of wort. Its rocking out overnight and starts the rest of the batch rapidly, ferments stronger and quicker than when I pitched 2 packs w/o using the drauflassen technique.Usually 7 gallon batches of 1.050-060 OGs.

[bigdaddyale]

https://braukaiser.c...tle=Drauflassen

[denny]

they may have been good advice when dry yeast was really cheap but the real issue I believe is that drez has one packet and doesn't have access to another and would like to brew this weekend.  is there a good reason for him to not make a starter and try to boost his cell count?

 

If he needs more yeast, there's really no other choice.

[HVB]

If he needs more yeast, there's really no other choice.

Well, there is a choice. I decided to hold off on that beer until the the other yeast comes in and brew a different beer with yeast I have.

[djinkc]

If he needs more yeast, there's really no other choice.

 

Why?  Would you not harvest yeast from a brew started with dry?

[zymot]

I would go the extra 59¢ and not use tap water to rehydrate. Use some bottled water and multi e t. Tap water and it's chlorine/chloramine does not sound like a good idea on fragile rehydrated yeast.

[HVB]

I would go the extra 59¢ and not use tap water to rehydrate. Use some bottled water and multi e t. Tap water and it's chlorine/chloramine does not sound like a good idea on fragile rehydrated yeast.

No chlorine in my well water but I have used bottled, still boiled, to rehydrate.

[zymot]

No chlorine in my well water but I have used bottled, still boiled, to rehydrate.

Off the top of my head. Do you cook, drink and bath in your well water? If it is safe for me and my family, I would think it is safe for the yeast.Boiling bottled water? I think of bottled water as pretty much sterile. Or at least sanitary. My guess is you might add more contaminants during the process of boiling and cooling as you would just using the water straight out of the bottle.

[denny]

Why?  Would you not harvest yeast from a brew started with dry?

 

sure.

[MakeMeHoppy]

I think the point is you can make a 'starter' with dry yeast, but make it a big one. Making a typical 1-2 liter starter may result in less healthy yeast that just the rehydrated packet.