https://www.woodinvi...co.com/barrels/
$145
Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:50 PM
That seems spendy for the size.
Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:55 PM
I figured Schwanz or Blktre would weigh in .
Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:57 PM
Doob's in the business, he'd know.
Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:30 PM
I figured Schwanz or Blktre would weigh in .
I agree with CL. Its been a few years since we bought barrels from a cooperage. The last 30g brand new American medium toast was somewhere around $200 at the time. The seconds of Tempelton Rye from Boulevard I get for $20-25 each for a 53g barrel. The 23yr old Pappy Van Winkle barrel was free just needed to pay shipping on it.
Edited by BlKtRe, 21 January 2014 - 05:30 PM.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:22 AM
Not a bad price. The smaller the barrel (used) usually the more expensive it is, I've found. They are much harder to come by. I think my buddies paid around $225 for an 8 gallon whiskey barrel.
Here's the thing about whiskey barrels... you will become a slave to them. You can only leave the first beer in there for a couple days, the next one about the same, the third about a week, and maybe you'll get the really good flavors you want when the fourth goes through. So I would approach brewing for it like this: Brew 4-5 10 gallon batches of beer. Have them ready for the barrel. Have kegs ready to fill. Spend two weeks doing transfers in and out and now you have 4 barrel aged beers. Now the barrel is ready for a little longer aging. Either fill it with sterile water for storage, or keep running beers through it. You'll have to go by taste to know if the beer is ready. Eventually you can use it for sours, but it will take a while to get that whiskey character out of it.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:25 AM
The smaller the barrel (used) usually the more expensive it is, I've found. They are much harder to come by. I think my buddies paid around $225 for an 8 gallon whiskey barrel.
Seems to be the way of things. The price does not strike me as horrible, but shipping from Washington State would put it over the top.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:32 AM
You might look for a cooperage close to you and get pricing on a new barrel.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:34 AM
If you are looking for yourself there are a few places on the East Coast that have them and shipping will be cheaper and shorter.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:56 AM
You might look for a cooperage close to you and get pricing on a new barrel.
I can get 63 gallon Ky Bourbon barrels for $100 from a place I used to work, but that's way too big for one person. Supposedly working on a barrel/guitar swap with Doob, but I think he's been pretty busy lately.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:17 AM
Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:51 AM
Heh..... SorryYeah that's wha they go for. Same barrels I am using. I get a deal for buying bulk though (72 at a time)
Guess Im lucky I know some people to get me excellent barrels for $20-25
Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:05 AM
Guess Im lucky I know some people to get me excellent barrels for $20-25
Not as cheap but Allagash barrels are 60 bucks .. but require a trip to Maine and are used once for beer.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:53 PM
Not as cheap but Allagash barrels are 60 bucks .. but require a trip to Maine and are used once for beer.
Thats a good deal too.
Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:07 PM
If that's a legit hookup, pm meGuess Im lucky I know some people to get me excellent barrels for $20-25
Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:34 AM
Not a bad price. The smaller the barrel (used) usually the more expensive it is, I've found. They are much harder to come by. I think my buddies paid around $225 for an 8 gallon whiskey barrel.
Here's the thing about whiskey barrels... you will become a slave to them. You can only leave the first beer in there for a couple days, the next one about the same, the third about a week, and maybe you'll get the really good flavors you want when the fourth goes through. So I would approach brewing for it like this: Brew 4-5 10 gallon batches of beer. Have them ready for the barrel. Have kegs ready to fill. Spend two weeks doing transfers in and out and now you have 4 barrel aged beers. Now the barrel is ready for a little longer aging. Either fill it with sterile water for storage, or keep running beers through it. You'll have to go by taste to know if the beer is ready. Eventually you can use it for sours, but it will take a while to get that whiskey character out of it.
What about new non-whisky barrels? Do they produce a strong oak character at first and the first few batchs you would have to go through the same regimen? My club just did a bulk buy (30ish) of these barrels without the spigot. Got them for $85/each including shipping.
Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:42 AM
What about new non-whisky barrels? Do they produce a strong oak character at first and the first few batchs you would have to go through the same regimen? My club just did a bulk buy (30ish) of these barrels without the spigot. Got them for $85/each including shipping.
You will get a ton of oak the first few runs thought it.
Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:41 AM
What about new non-whisky barrels? Do they produce a strong oak character at first and the first few batchs you would have to go through the same regimen? My club just did a bulk buy (30ish) of these barrels without the spigot. Got them for $85/each including shipping.
Nice. Drill bigger bung holes.
You will get a ton of oak the first few runs thought it.
This. When I was preparing mine I left some sterilized water in it for about a week. Holy cow. It smelled like scotch when I emptied it. The first beer I put in it was undrinkable. The second was pretty good. The third is interesting. It's been in there for about a year. I'm gonna brew a flanders red here pretty quick and start using it for a solera. Same size as yours.
Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:04 PM
Interesting that it smelled like scotch, as they only use used barrels. Could have been the iodine though if you use iodophorNice. Drill bigger bung holes. This. When I was preparing mine I left some sterilized water in it for about a week. Holy cow. It smelled like scotch when I emptied it. The first beer I put in it was undrinkable. The second was pretty good. The third is interesting. It's been in there for about a year. I'm gonna brew a flanders red here pretty quick and start using it for a solera. Same size as yours.
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