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[neddles]

I have heard a few times now that this is a nice combination of hops. If not, tell me I'm wrong (I've never brewed anything with Willamette) If so, let the creative juices flow and write me a recipe for something tasty but sessionable to have on tap this fall maybe in the range of 4.5-5.5% abv. that uses a good dose of the two. Maybe an APA or a mild american brown? An Americanized bitter?

[positiveContact]

I'd do an APA.  base of 2-row.  1 lb of C40 or C60 (5 gallon batch).  maybe a pound of wheat if you want.  bitter with whatever you want.  nail it a few times starting at 10 minutes with about equal parts of willy and cascade.  ferment of 1056 or equivalent.  enjoy!

[HVB]

This is a brown ale I have done many times and I think if you add in some Willamette with the 5 and 1 minute hops it will work out nicely.  As a matter of fact I may give it a try in the next couple of weeks.

[color=#000000;]Size: 6.0 gal Efficiency: 70%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Original Gravity: 1.051 (1.040 - 1.052)
Terminal Gravity: 1.013 (1.008 - 1.014)
Color: 16.42 (12.0 - 22.0)
Alcohol: 5.04% (4.2% - 5.4%)
Bitterness: 28.7 (20.0 - 30.0)
Ingredients:
11.0 lb Maris Otter Pale Ale Malt
8.0 oz Crystal 65
8.0 oz Belgian Caravienne
4.0 oz Victory® Malt
4.0 oz Chocolate Malt

1 oz Northern Brewer (8.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
1 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5 min
1 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 1 min
1 ea Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04
Mash at 154[/color]

Edited by drez77, 02 August 2013 - 05:04 AM.

[realbeerguy]

I've done this one a few times

 

8.5 # 2 row

3/4# c40

1/2# cara pils

 

1/2 oz Chinook 13%@ 60

 

@ 15 min

2/3oz Cascade  5.5%

1/3 oz Willamette 5%

 

@ 1 min

1/3 oz Cascade

2/3 oz willamette

 

S04, Wyeast 1318, or WLP 007

og 1.052

fg 1.012

[neddles]

Thanks for the guidance guys. Ill throw this out there. What do you think?

 

OG 1.055

IBU 40

 

10# MO

.75# Victory

.5# Wheat Malt

Mash @ 154

 

Apollo @60

.75oz each Cascade/Willamette @10

.75oz. each Cascade/Willamette @170F in whirlpool

1.0oz. Cascade-Dry Hop

 

1056/1272/1450

[realbeerguy]

Thanks for the guidance guys. Ill throw this out there. What do you think?

 

OG 1.055

IBU 40

 

10# MO

.75# Victory

.5# Wheat Malt

Mash @ 154

 

Apollo @60

.75oz each Cascade/Willamette @10

.75oz. each Cascade/Willamette @170F in whirlpool

1.0oz. Cascade-Dry Hop

 

1056/1272/1450

Try bumping the temp to 156.  good to go

[johnpreuss]

I would bump it up to a full ounce of each for both additions but that's me.  If nothing else maybe just the whirlpool addition.  Either way it's a winner of a combination.

[neddles]

Try bumping the temp to 156.  good to go

 

Sure I'll try 156F. I never mash that high so why not try? I know some brewer's attenuation doesn't change all that much as they go up. So why not see what my system will do?

 

I would bump it up to a full ounce of each for both additions but that's me.  If nothing else maybe just the whirlpool addition.  Either way it's a winner of a combination.

 

Sold. A full ounce for each addition it is. 

[Poptop]

One of my GOTO beers.  Cascade and Willamette (Peas and Carrots)

 

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - https://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Poolside Pale Ale
Brewer: Bures-Brue's
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 7.16 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.46 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.92 gal
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 7.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 46.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 68.2 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type   #   %/IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1   85.7 %  
12.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2   7.1 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)   Grain 3   7.1 %
0.30 oz Perle [8.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4   10.8 IBUs
0.30 oz Perle [8.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 5   9.0 IBUs  
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6   6.8 IBUs  
0.50 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min   Hop 7   6.8 IBUs  
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8   4.1 IBUs  
0.50 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min   Hop 9   4.1 IBUs  
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min   Hop 10 1.0 IBUs  
1.00 oz Super Galena [14.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min   Hop 11 2.6 IBUs  
1.00 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 12 1.0 IBUs  
1.0 pkg Irish Ale Yeast (White Labs #WLP004) Yeast 13

[matt6150]

I think I might be the only guy that does not like Willamette. I have not liked any beer I have made with them. And I recently made a Pale ale very similar to the one above, I atually called it Poolside pale ale as well.

[Poptop]

What is it that you don't like?

 

Great Name BTW

[matt6150]

What is it that you don't like?

 

Great Name BTW

I can't really put my finger on it, just a weird flavor to me. It's got like a herby pepper flavor thing going on.

[Mya]

I can't really put my finger on it, just a weird flavor to me. It's got like a herby pepper flavor thing going on.

as djinkc about Willy's dad Fuggle, he has the same feelings 

[positiveContact]

as djinkc about Willy's dad Fuggle, he has the same feelings 

 

i'm not a huge styrian goldings fan (also fuggleish) but i really like willy.

[Mya]

i'm not a huge styrian goldings fan (also fuggleish) but i really like willy.

I like all of the Fuggles offshoots really US Tett, Fuggles, Styrians, Willy 

[neddles]

i'm not a huge styrian goldings fan (also fuggleish) but i really like willy.

Fuggles=Styrian Goldings.  Only difference is where it is grown.

[Mya]

Fuggles=Styrian Goldings.  Only difference is where it is grown.

100 ish years of climate adaption changes the characteristics some

[neddles]

100 ish years of climate adaption changes the characteristics some

No doubt this is true.

[Poptop]

Interesting.  Fuggles to me is too earthen (dirt).  Willy is lighter but still earthy and (to me) compliments the "grapefruityness" of Cascade.  A brewers hops ying/yang.  Peas/carrots, Archie/Edith.....

[neddles]

Finally got around to making this on Saturday. It is smelling absolutely heavenly. Here's what I went with. Still considering if/how much dry hop. Thoughts?

 

 

Post Boil Volume: 6.00 gal

Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal  

Kegging Volume: 5.00 gal

OG: 1.055 SG

Estimated Color: 8.4 SRM

Estimated IBU: 40 IBUs

Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %

Est Mash Efficiency: 74.2 %

Boil Time: 60 Minutes

 

Ingredients:

------------

Amt                   Name                                                           Type          #        %/IBU      

10 lbs                Maris Otter, Floor Malted (Warminster)       Grain         1        85.1 %        

12.0 oz              Victory Malt (biscuit) (Briess) (28.0 SR        Grain         2        6.4 %      

8.0 oz                Light Carastan, Baird's (15.0 SRM)            Grain         3        4.3 %      

8.0 oz                Wheat - Red Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM)          Grain         4        4.3 %      

20.00 g              Northern Brewer [9.30 %] - Boil 60.0 min  Hop           5        26.9 IBUs  

7.00 g                Cascade [5.60 %] - Boil 20.0 min               Hop           6        1.9 IBUs      

7.00 g                Willamette [5.20 %] - Boil 20.0 min            Hop           7        1.8 IBUs      

1.00 Items         Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)                  Fining       8        -          

28.30 g              Cascade [5.60 %] - Boil 10.0 min               Hop          9        4.6 IBUs      

28.30 g              Willamette [5.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min            Hop          10       4.3 IBUs      

0.50 tsp              Wyeast Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 mins)      Other       11       -          

28.30 g              Cascade [5.60 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min  Hop          12       0.0 IBUs      

28.30 g              Willamette [5.20 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 mi  Hop          13       0.0 IBUs      

1.0 pkg              California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35.   Yeast        14       -          

 

 

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body

Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 12.0 oz

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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time  

Saccharification  Add 31.73 qt of water at 159.8 F        154.0 F       60 min 

 

Mash pH-5.23 Ca-126, Na-8, SO4-250, Cl-42