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[johnpreuss]

So I brewed up this Brittish Ale today.  As I was crushing the grains I thought WOW this Munton's C40 is dark.  I compared it to some Briess C60 and thought that it looked darker than the Briess.  I bought the C40 in a prepackaged 1 lb bag from my LHBS - I believe they get them from Crosby or one of the other wholesalers.  Has anyone else ever noticed this??? 

 

 

[Big Nake]

Maybe.  I don't know if I have ever thought the lighter-numbered stuff is darker but I do think that the English maltsters is where you should try to get your British crystal for bitters, EPAs, ESBs, etc.  There is a character to them that really makes these styles.  There's no reason why you couldn't use American crystal but I think these beers come out much better with the British stuff.  Hugh Baird and Thomas Fawcett & Sons make some very good malt. 

[positiveContact]

So I brewed up this Brittish Ale today.  As I was crushing the grains I thought WOW this Munton's C40 is dark.  I compared it to some Briess C60 and thought that it looked darker than the Briess.  I bought the C40 in a prepackaged 1 lb bag from my LHBS - I believe they get them from Crosby or one of the other wholesalers.  Has anyone else ever noticed this??? 

 

 

 

the origin shouldn't effect the color.  C40 is C40 is C40 when it comes to color contribution assuming the malter isn't having quality control issues.  as for the flavor diff between domestic and english - I have no idea.  I've pretty much always used domestic.

[denny]

Keep imind that the color you see listed for any crystal malt is an average. When you look at the malt you see a range of color in the kernels.

[MolBasser]

We are actually conducting a crystal trial at work right now.

 

Most companies blend different batches to get the desired color.  In some crystal malts you will see kernels all the way from cara pils to c120 colors.

 

Other brands will kiln dead on and use single batches.

 

We just got this really cool tool that allows you to slice kernels in have very precisely so you can see the range of colors.

 

MolBasser

[johnpreuss]

We are actually conducting a crystal trial at work right now.

 

Most companies blend different batches to get the desired color.  In some crystal malts you will see kernels all the way from cara pils to c120 colors.

 

Other brands will kiln dead on and use single batches.

 

We just got this really cool tool that allows you to slice kernels in have very precisely so you can see the range of colors.

 

MolBasser

Now would I be wrong in saying you would most definately get different character from the blend of crystal malts??  I mean if you have carapils and c120 to get to say 45-50 you could end up with dark fruit flavors vs. the caramel flavor you may be looking from the mid range crystal.  Or am I off base on this??

[MolBasser]

No, you are right.

 

The single batch is going to have a purer flavor.

 

This is one of the reasons for our trial.

 

MolBasser

[positiveContact]

We are actually conducting a crystal trial at work right now.

 

Most companies blend different batches to get the desired color.  In some crystal malts you will see kernels all the way from cara pils to c120 colors.

 

Other brands will kiln dead on and use single batches.

 

We just got this really cool tool that allows you to slice kernels in have very precisely so you can see the range of colors.

 

MolBasser

 

I'd really like to be able to see a standard deviation number on this so I'd know what I was getting.

[MolBasser]

So would we.

 

MolBasser

[positiveContact]

So would we.

 

MolBasser

 

let me know?

[MolBasser]

Sure.

[davelew]

 

I'd really like to be able to see a standard deviation number on this so I'd know what I was getting.

 

Standard deviation is not nearly as useful if you don't know the kurtosis.

[positiveContact]

 

Standard deviation is not nearly as useful if you don't know the kurtosis.

 

I'd also take a plot of the distribution and we could just avoid the statistics termonology cock waiving.