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[davelew]

Oh no. You're giving the other side more ammo, man. Now you're saying that if a beer "tastes" like a lager than it really is!

I've heard of people brewing ales with 100% pilsner malted barley, fermenting with hefeweizen yeast, and entering them in competitions as wheat beers even though they contain no wheat.

[Mya]

Oh no. You're giving the other side more ammo, man. Now you're saying that if a beer "tastes" like a lager than it really is!

muahahahahahah!

[Mya]

I've heard of people brewing ales with 100% pilsner malted barley, fermenting with hefeweizen yeast, and entering them in competitions as wheat beers even though they contain no wheat.

that's dampfbier right?

[denny]

Oh no. You're giving the other side more ammo, man. Now you're saying that if a beer "tastes" like a lager than it really is!

No, I'm saying for purposes of a BJCP comp, if it tastes like an ale, enter it as an ale. Even though it's REALLY a lager. 2 different things.

[Big Nake]

No, I'm saying for purposes of a BJCP comp, if it tastes like an ale, enter it as an ale. Even though it's REALLY a lager. 2 different things.

Ah, what a relief.

[Mya]

No, I'm saying for purposes of a BJCP comp, if it tastes like an ale, enter it as an ale. Even though it's REALLY a lager. 2 different things.

but you don't know that it was made with lager yeast right?

[denny]

but you don't know that it was made with lager yeast right?

That is correct. In a BJCP comp all you know is what it's entered as and what it tastes like. You have no knowledge of the ingredients.

[denny]

Is that always true?In BJCP mead comps, you have to define any major ingredients that lend to appearance, flavour, or aroma.

I think in the specialty categories you have to say what makes it "special', but for an IPA you wouldn't have to declare any ingredients.

[Mya]

I think in the specialty categories you have to say what makes it "special', but for an IPA you wouldn't have to declare any ingredients.

my local fair is still using the old AHA format from god knows whenevery bottle has a recipe on it, and you get judged on the beer and the recipe is critiqued as well

[denny]

my local fair is still using the old AHA format from god knows whenevery bottle has a recipe on it, and you get judged on the beer and the recipe is critiqued as well

That is stupid.....

[cavman]

It's more of a modern IPA than a classic IPA. This brewery only makes Lagers, so it may not be more difficult for them, but mostly it fits in their model. They have been doing a nice job of making some classic Lagers while finding the freedom to ignore a lot of the prejudices that have shown up in this thread.For example, another beer of theirs that I really like is Jabby Brau, which is somewhat like a Pilsner made with an American hop presence. It stresses the floral more than grapefruit, but still has enough citrus flavor to be distintive and refreshing.

They can be pretty creative as well, here is the list for their anniversary party at Meadhall tomorrow:Meadhall:

• Jabby Brau
• Nitro Smoke & Dagger
• Hoponius
• Ginger & Juice(IPL with Ginger and grapefruit juice/peel)
• Leisure Time(Wirbier)
• Barrel Aged Biere de Garde with Brett
• Bourbon Barrel Aged Framinghammer(Baltic Porter)
• Barrel Aged Smoke & Dagger with Peanut Butter
• Barrel Aged Smoke & Dagger with Chipotle

[cavman]

That is correct. In a BJCP comp all you know is what it's entered as and what it tastes like. You have no knowledge of the ingredients.

I was going to enter something in a CO contest called Belgians and Big brews or something like that and it required ingredients on the bottle labels.

[Mya]

That is stupid.....

the fair beer comp is judged by Jim's Homebrew in Spokanethey are kinda uptight at times about methods as well, mentioning batch sparging gets dirty looks and eyerollswe recently formed a new Club called Inland Brewers Unite, things are looking up

[denny]

the fair beer comp is judged by Jim's Homebrew in Spokanethey are kinda uptight at times about methods as well, mentioning batch sparging gets dirty looks and eyerollswe recently formed a new Club called Inland Brewers Unite, things are looking up

Sounds like a reason to find another shop.

[Mya]

Sounds like a reason to find another shop.

there is one other full service shop in the area, it is way the hell out of my way though, there is a small little startup place that is only carrying grain and a few other things almost as far away

[Genesee Ted]

Wow, seems like some need to relax, etc.... I am sorry for your difficulties mic

[Mya]

Wow, seems like some need to relax, etc.... I am sorry for your difficulties mic

I might be exaggerating a little, but not muchif you don't do it the way they teach, there is some scorn