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[SchwanzBrewer]

I really like to drink spicy red wines with a good steak or BBQ. I would like to design a beer that had that same character. Not necessarily heat, but a peppery note that is more noticeable without having to age in oak and getting a lot of those flavors. Also, I would like this beer to be an IPA. I think you can almost get there with rye, but I haven't had a rye beer yet that really had that prominent peppery character.What would the beer forum brain trust try?Cheers,Rich

[cavman]

I was thinking a Belgian IPA myself, you could use peppercorns as Guest mentioned as well. A local brewpub does a peppercorn saison that is very good.

[MtnBrewer]

I've used peppercorns in a tripel and it was fantastic. Not necessarily spicy but it had a hint of that black pepper aroma in it.

[cavman]

I've used peppercorns in a tripel and it was fantastic. Not necessarily spicy but it had a hint of that black pepper aroma in it.

The CBC Saison uses black, green, white and pink peppercorns. It gets some heat, but not too much.

[HVB]

The CBC Saison uses black, green, white and pink peppercorns. It gets some heat, but not too much.

It is also great as a vinaigrette!

[JMcG]

Maybe use 3711.

I thought the same thing. The peppery phenols might be just what you want. What hops are you considering? First thing I thought of was Columbus and Saaz. NBC did a saison with green peppercorns and apricots which blended nicely, but it did age in chardonnay barrels.

[SchwanzBrewer]

how would i apply the peppercorns? in secondary or in the boil?

[SchwanzBrewer]

I'm not sure which hops to use. I have plenty of saaz and columbus though.

[MtnBrewer]

how would i apply the peppercorns? in secondary or in the boil?

In the boil. Somewhere between 5 & 15 minutes.

[toonces]

grains of paradise.

[MtnBrewer]

grains of paradise.

Would be good too. I used them in a BDSA one time and decided that black pepper would do the same thing.

[SchwanzBrewer]

OK, so here is what I am thinking...10 galGerman Pilsner 75%Munich 20%Carapils 5%mash @ 156OG to 1.070Saaz @ 60min 40 IBUSaaz @ 30min 15 IBUCascade @ 15min 10 IBU2oz Fresh Crushed Peppercorn @ 15 min2oz Cascade @ Flameout 0-5 IBU (guessing)Pitch with WYeast 3711 from starter.Any thoughts?

[MtnBrewer]

2 oz. of peppercorns is a LOT! I used 1/4 tsp (ground, not crushed) for 5 minutes in my tripel.

[SchwanzBrewer]

2 oz. of peppercorns is a LOT! I used 1/4 tsp (ground, not crushed) for 5 minutes in my tripel.

I used a WAG on the amount, thanks for the input!

[Mya]

dry SAF T-58 produces peppery notes in my pallete, and I like the peppercorn idea, I used a teaspoon of mixed pink/white/black in a wit a few years back it was nice