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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:16 AM

I'm planning way ahead here but I figured I may as well sort this out now. When you guys bottle - are you concerned about the headspace in the bottle in terms of O2 exposure? I wasn't planning on priming my cider so I'm not really expecting any fermentation to happen once the cider is in the bottle. I was considering lightly carbonating the cider in a keg and bottling from the keg but I'm not sure yet.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:51 AM

also - unrelated - I never took an initial gravity reading for my juice. what's typical?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:15 AM

If I bottle cider I force carb to around 2.5-2.75 volumes and cap on foam. I'm not sure how the O2 would effect it. Raw cider typically has an OG in the 1.045-1.055 range. Make sure you give it plenty of time to clear before it hits the bottle. If you pick up any residual SO2 do the 'penny test' to determine if a small copper addition will fix it. I posted a thread on the 'penny test' last year that has a good link in it. The small copper addition I made really cleaned up a couple batches from last year. Best of luck.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:17 AM

If I bottle cider I force carb to around 2.5-2.75 volumes and cap on foam. I'm not sure how the O2 would effect it. Raw cider typically has an OG in the 1.045-1.055 range. Make sure you give it plenty of time to clear before it hits the bottle. If you pick up any residual SO2 do the 'penny test' to determine if a small copper addition will fix it. I posted a thread on the 'penny test' last year that has a good link in it. The small copper addition I made really cleaned up a couple batches from last year. Best of luck.

Is that on the high end of carbonation for cider? that seems pretty spritzy to me.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:24 AM

Is that on the high end of carbonation for cider? that seems pretty spritzy to me.

style guidelines are wide open. I personally like a dry cider with lots of effervescence

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:29 AM

style guidelines are wide open. I personally like a dry cider with lots of effervescence

so using your method - have you found the bottles to have a good shelf life? how long have you kept bottles around?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:37 AM

I bulk age in kegs and only bottle for events/outings/gifts. I'd assume the shelf life would be similar to beer gunned beer. Sorry I'm not much help.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:43 AM

I bulk age in kegs and only bottle for events/outings/gifts. I'd assume the shelf life would be similar to beer gunned beer. Sorry I'm not much help.

well - that's an option as well although I'd rather not tie up a keg long term like that.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:22 PM

anyone else have any experiences they'd like to share?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:45 PM

Why bottle still cider? If you go that way, maybe purge the bottles with CO2 before filling. The CO2 is heavy, and will displace any air even during filling.I bulk age in glass carboys and kegs. I've only ever bottle sparkling or kegged cider/perry.

how much sparkle do you like?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:44 AM

I don't have a way to purge my bottles. Would carbonating in a keg before bottling do the job well enough?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 08:44 AM

:huh: Just remove the disconnect from the gas line, stick it in the bottle, turn the gas on for a second or two. The CO2 will stay in the bottle until you fill, because its heavier than air. Best to do each bottle before filling.

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