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#1 Brian72

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:07 PM

Is there any reason NOT to use Northern Brewer hops for bittering (60 min)? I will be using whole cascades at 15 minutes and 1 minute. I was thinking if I can reach my IBU's with these I should be ok and they wont contribute to any flavors at all.Am I right on this?

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:10 PM

Is there any reason NOT to use Northern Brewer hops for bittering (60 min)? I will be using whole cascades at 15 minutes and 1 minute. I was thinking if I can reach my IBU's with these I should be ok and they wont contribute to any flavors at all.Am I right on this?

It seems like blasphemy, but I'd bet you're right.....

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:14 PM

It seems like blasphemy, but I'd bet you're right.....

It doies seem like blasphemy but I really dont care for these hops in a flavor/aroma capacity and want to get rid of them. Also, I dont think I have anything else suitable to bitter this.

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:24 PM

At a 60 minute addition, I doubt you will detect any flavor (aside from bitter) from them. The bittering does seem a little soft, almost minty, but that is a very, very small hint of mint.I have made a few APA's with Northern Brewer at 60min, all came out great.

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:31 PM

At a 60 minute addition, I doubt you will detect any flavor (aside from bitter) from them. The bittering does seem a little soft, almost minty, but that is a very, very small hint of mint.I have made a few APA's with Northern Brewer at 60min, all came out great.

Thats good news.Here is what I'm working with if anyone was curious or would like to add anything I missed.10 lbs 2 row pale malt.5 lbs 60L crystal1 ounce Northern Brewer (60 min).5 ounce whole cascade (15 min).5 ounce whole cascade (1 min)US-56 yeast

#6 DuncanDad

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:04 PM

That dog should hurt. That looks pretty good to me.

#7 JimInNJ

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:06 PM

I would double that 15 minute cascade addition.- Jim

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 07:16 PM

Thats good news.Here is what I'm working with if anyone was curious or would like to add anything I missed.10 lbs 2 row pale malt.5 lbs 60L crystal1 ounce Northern Brewer (60 min).5 ounce whole cascade (15 min).5 ounce whole cascade (1 min)US-56 yeast

NB's work fine in Pales and even IPA's for bittering, just hit em up with the desired flavor/aroma hops later.

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 07:26 PM

One of my favorite combinations for APA is Northern Brewer for bittering, with Cascade for flavor and aroma. I really like the Northern Brewer as a bittering hop because it seems to give a kind of a smooth, pleasant bitterness.

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 07:42 PM

NB's work fine in Pales and even IPA's for bittering, just hit em up with the desired flavor/aroma hops later.

One of my favorite combinations for APA is Northern Brewer for bittering, with Cascade for flavor and aroma. I really like the Northern Brewer as a bittering hop because it seems to give a kind of a smooth, pleasant bitterness.

Cool! It looks like this one is a go for saturday. :)

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 08:22 PM

Isn't that the classic SNPA clone hop?

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 08:26 PM

NB is a great all 'round bittering hop. You'll be just fine.I use Magnum for all of my bittering anymore, at MBC, at least.

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 08:29 PM

Isn't that the classic SNPA clone hop?

I think SNBC lists Magnum and Perle as their bittering hop for the pale, which I have none...

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 08:33 PM

I think SNBC lists Magnum and Perle as their bittering hop for the pale, which I have none...

You're right. I was thinking of Perle...

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 09:24 PM

Thats good news.Here is what I'm working with if anyone was curious or would like to add anything I missed.10 lbs 2 row pale malt.5 lbs 60L crystal1 ounce Northern Brewer (60 min).5 ounce whole cascade (15 min).5 ounce whole cascade (1 min)US-56 yeast

If that is your actual grain bill I applaud your sense of restraint and simplicity. :)

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 09:40 PM

Isn't that the classic SNPA clone hop?

It shouldn't be.It will work fine, but it wouldn't be a SNPA clone.BrewBasser

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 02:28 AM

If that is your actual grain bill I applaud your sense of restraint and simplicity. :)

I don't think you need complex grain additions for an APA when the hops dominate anyway.At least thats what I do. Base plus a little crystal does it for me.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 04:39 AM

The JPA recipe has a 60 min addition of NB and it is a wonderful recipe and beer. I would not see any reason not to give it a try.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 04:38 PM

It shouldn't be.It will work fine, but it wouldn't be a SNPA clone.BrewBasser

Awesome. I wasnt looking for it to be a SNPA clone, per sei.... Just wanted to have an APA, PA or IPA on tap since I'm poor now and cant afford to buy SNPA as often as I'd like to. :sarcasm:

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 04:56 PM

If that is your actual grain bill I applaud your sense of restraint and simplicity. :sarcasm:

I have been making a pale ale for 2 years with10 lb 2 row1/2 lb crystal 401/2 lb biscuit1 oz Chinook at 601/2 oz Cascade at 15 and 1sometimes simple is just simply good.PS For the past year I've been dry hopping 1/2 - 1 oz cascade and that adds a lot


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