You think it would be hard to clone Pilsner Urquell?
#1
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:33 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:35 PM
#3
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:40 PM
Fair enough. P.U. is just so clean but malty and hoppy. mmm.I'd say it would be impossible to "clone" it (or any beer), but you can brew a damn fine BoPils a lot like it.
#4
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:41 PM
#5
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:42 PM
Clone it? You can't quite get there from here, because no one has access to the same malt - they are their own maltsters. The closest I came was using 90% Belgian pils malt with 10% German Vienna malt. I tried using the Weyermann bohemian pils malt, which is the same Hanka barley variety used in making Urquell, but had very poor results (worst DMS I have EVER experienced, even after a two hour boil). I came pretty close on bitterness and hop flavor with additions at 60, 30 and 15 minutes (can't remember the exact amounts, though), and Wyeast #2278 is a great choice. I know there are supposedly two different Urquell yeast strains (D and H, can't remember which one 2278 is, 2001 being the other), but I think 2278 does just fine. White Labs 800 is another excellent choice - but I would stay away from WL802, since that finishes drier and does not leave the residual sweetness that really distinguishes Urquell from Budvar and the like. I'll look around for my hopping schedule and see if I can't dig it up and share it later.Also, soft water is an absolute must. My R/O water is just about perfect for this style.I'm an ale man by history, and I figured with summer coming up, a fine euro-lager/pilsner would be awesome. It would be my first time lagering.I love Pilsner Urquell so much... how bad do you think my first attempt at making it would be? It really seems a bit like it would be unforgiving.
#6 *_Guest_BigBossMan_*
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:43 PM
You sure do know how to pee on a man's parade. lolWith or without the skunk?
#7
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:50 PM
YOU shut the hell up!With or without the skunk?
#8
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:50 PM
So what you're saying is, it's exceedingly simple?Clone it? You can't quite get there from here, because no one has access to the same malt - they are their own maltsters. The closest I came was using 90% Belgian pils malt with 10% German Vienna malt. I tried using the Weyermann bohemian pils malt, which is the same Hanka barley variety used in making Urquell, but had very poor results (worst DMS I have EVER experienced, even after a two hour boil). I came pretty close on bitterness and hop flavor with additions at 60, 30 and 15 minutes (can't remember the exact amounts, though), and Wyeast #2278 is a great choice. I know there are supposedly two different Urquell yeast strains (D and H, can't remember which one 2278 is, 2001 being the other), but I think 2278 does just fine. White Labs 800 is another excellent choice - but I would stay away from WL802, since that finishes drier and does not leave the residual sweetness that really distinguishes Urquell from Budvar and the like. I'll look around for my hopping schedule and see if I can't dig it up and share it later.Also, soft water is an absolute must. My R/O water is just about perfect for this style.
#9
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:54 PM
Hey, some people like the green bottle flavor. Just asking. :)Actually diacetyl bugs me so I never made a real BoPils. Nice to have once in a while, but wouldn't want a full batch. As far as "cloning it" I thought there was a recipe in BYO from 2005, but it was heineken.You sure do know how to pee on a man's parade. lol
#10
Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:58 PM
That and a triple decoction as far as I know. The length of the decoction boil and the amounts drawn to decoct also would comeinto play I would assume as well as the rest temps.It is my fav in an import and I was disappointed with the skunk from the bottle. The loss of hop flavour from the canned versionalso was disappointing, although the beer was still great.Clone it? You can't quite get there from here, because no one has access to the same malt - they are their own maltsters.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:07 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:11 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:13 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:40 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:10 PM
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:38 PM
Which is why I never even tried it until I found it on tap once.Wasn't a fan, but my wife loved it.Hey, some people like the green bottle flavor. Just asking.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:53 PM
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