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#1 earthtone

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:34 PM

Yup just looking for some info. I am fermenting at 54 df, package says low end is 51 df for this one.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:48 PM

I guess it depends which strain you are talking about. S-23 has mixed reviews. It came out decently for me but others complain of a passion fruit flavor. My palate isn't very sophisticated so I didn't pick any of that up at racking time. Saflager W34-70 has better reviews and seems to be good for those pursuing a cleaner "lagerish" flavors. https://www.brews-br...?showtopic=3537

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:07 PM

Funny coincidence I just finished up my 2nd ever lager using s-23. My first attempt was a very fruity pilsner,not what I intended. My recent 2nd attempt resulted in a clean crisp lager,all from a dry yeast which I find to be VERY convenient. The difference between the 1st attempt and the second was: 1) I used 2 packets on the last attempt (pitch enough yeast) 2) I primary fermented at about 48-50 degrees. ferment that low and it takes a while to reach terminal gravity...but... 3) be patient. I left my lager in for about 4 weeks in primary. I did the primary fermentation around 48-50, the raised the temp to about 60 and then crash cooled for the remaining 2 weeks, all in the primary fermenter. I feel s-23 is a great yeast and I would readily use it again and plan to soon also. hope this helps.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:28 PM

Funny coincidence I just finished up my 2nd ever lager using s-23. My first attempt was a very fruity pilsner,not what I intended. My recent 2nd attempt resulted in a clean crisp lager,all from a dry yeast which I find to be VERY convenient. The difference between the 1st attempt and the second was: 1) I used 2 packets on the last attempt (pitch enough yeast) 2) I primary fermented at about 48-50 degrees. ferment that low and it takes a while to reach terminal gravity...but... 3) be patient. I left my lager in for about 4 weeks in primary. I did the primary fermentation around 48-50, the raised the temp to about 60 and then crash cooled for the remaining 2 weeks, all in the primary fermenter. I feel s-23 is a great yeast and I would readily use it again and plan to soon also. hope this helps.

Great info there. ET, I have the Saflager S-23 in my fridge (only 1 packet :) ) and I've been looking for a reason to use it. I don't like any of this passion-fruit or fruity-pebbles pilsner talk because I expect my lagers to come out cleaner than that. Maybe I need to get another packet and then do as MATT C suggests and use 2 packs and then ferment 48-50° (which I typically do anyway). ET, what are you planning on making with it? Cheers.Also... check THIS out. Cheers.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:38 PM

Also... check THIS out. Cheers.

:) Ken, thats what passlaku above just posted too. :)

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:45 PM

wicked, great info guys! I'll keep the temp down on it. This is going to take a lot of frozen water bottles :)I made a gluten free, buckwheat, rice and agave pale lager that I want to come out pretty crisp and clean. Kinda complicated experiment but there's a cute lady I know that can't have gluten so that's motivation enough for me!I will post the recipe and results when I have them, for now I'll keep rotating the water bottles through and see what this turns into hahaha!:) thanks again for the info guys!

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:47 PM

good luck with that, hope she appreciates all of your hard work....and hope it pays off if you know what I mean :)

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 05:58 AM

ET: Sounds like a nice experiment. I have heard of gluten-free beers being made with sorghum, quinoa, rice & a number of other things, but not buckwheat. Should be interesting. If the beer comes out nicely, please post the recipe so we have it in our arsenal and in case we run into a cute lady too. :)

:P Ken, thats what passlaku above just posted too. :)

:covreyes: I was a little buzzed on MLPA last night. Cheers!


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