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#161 Big Nake

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 10:59 AM

The possibilities are endless. I agree that one should be 1056/US-05/WLP001 just so you know how the beer comes out. You could go English (1968/1028/1099/1098, etc), but those can be malty and less attenuative so maybe not. WLP008 East Coast, 1272, 1332 NW ale and the list goes on. Belgian could be good... I was just talking with another brewer about the nice quality of WLP500. Good luck.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:57 AM

The possibilities are endless. I agree that one should be 1056/US-05/WLP001 just so you know how the beer comes out. You could go English (1968/1028/1099/1098, etc), but those can be malty and less attenuative so maybe not.

I agree with you Ken, this one has the full lb of crystal malt to balance the body and it has a really nice thing going with the high attenuating clean yeast. I feel like a low attenuating malty english yeast might tip the scales on this one - some people might like it but I don't think I'd do it. There are plenty of good uses for english yeasts without trying an iffy one IMO. One being 1056/us05/wlp001 is a great idea to have the standard. Belgian might be fun, I'll stick by my suggestion to really suss out the differences between the american ale strains available. :smilielol:

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 11:28 PM

Going to do 5 gallons with WLP001 and the other 5 with WLP500 Trappist. Should be interesting, I've never used the 500 before so I am looking forward to the seeing differences that different yeast lend to the same wort.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 03:25 PM

How did the color come out on everyone's MLPA? Mine was far darker than I was anticipating, definitely darker than Ken's. It's more of an amber than a pale. I think the next time around I'm going to go with a ~20°L caramel malt, crystal 20 or caravienna.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 03:37 PM

I came in pretty pale I used C15 and C20 for my version. It was pale. I thought yours looked darker even considering looking through the growler from your gelatin post experiment.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:06 AM

I came in pretty pale I used C15 and C20 for my version. It was pale. I thought yours looked darker even considering looking through the growler from your gelatin post experiment.

Yeah, I'm calling it an amber ale from now on. I don't know if the color estimator in ProMash is way off, or if I got a bunch of caramelization in the kettle, but it's not really a pale.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 07:22 AM

I notice that different Crystal 60 from different sources will change the color a bit. When I get freshly crushed Crystal 60°L from one of my LHBSs or from an online supplier, my MLPA is darker. When I get precrushed C60 from another of my LHBSs, the beer comes out lighter. I wouldn't worry too much about it because you could always use C40, C50-60, C20, or any other combination to get the color you like if you think it's too dark. My notes show an SRM of 10... where did yours come in?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 02:18 PM

Beersmith says my MLPA was 5.3 SRM. Pale for sure. Just over the lower limit for a pale.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 03:46 PM

ProMash calculates my SRM as about 9. My crystal is very fresh and quoted as 64°L in the malt analysis for this particular lot from Thomas Fawcett. Personally, I think it's an error in the ProMash algorithm. But then again, I'm keen on blaming mistakes on calculation error. :angry:

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:11 PM

Yeah, that's a weird one. I'm sure we've all seen that the same beer will look different in a different glass, right? An amber beer in a regular pint glass will look much lighter in a tall, thin glass or look darker in a Nonick or Tulip glass (I'm thinking a Guiness-style 20-oz glass). I'm thinking that 9-10 is pretty common but I've had some MLPA that came out a little lighter... like maybe someone at my LHBS mislabeled the Crystal 40°L as 60. Whatever. Taste is the key here. Oh, and clarity... of course. :angry: :angry: :angry: Cheers!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 03:48 PM

Update - this beer is actually still getting a little bit better - I think I'll hit the plateau soon though.Look at how beautiful this beer is - excuse my slight under pour...[mod edit - image removed]

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 04:25 PM

Update - this beer is actually still getting a little bit better - I think I'll hit the plateau soon though. Look at how beautiful this beer is - excuse my slight under pour... [mod edit - image removed]

Need to change your metering on your camera, while your sliding door is nice, I would have prefered the beer to be in focus. :rolf: j/k man, I have the hardest time getting good beer shots like Ken. Somehow he takes awesome beer pr0n. :scratch:

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 04:28 PM

Need to change your metering on your camera, while your sliding door is nice, I would have prefered the beer to be in focus. :rolf: j/k man, I have the hardest time getting good beer shots like Ken. Somehow he takes awesome beer pr0n. :scratch:

ah - but notice the image IN the glass of my grill on the deck :rolf:

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 04:31 PM

ah - but notice the image IN the glass of my grill on the deck :scratch:

Is that grill brush that nice stainless one from Costco? If so I love mine and I can't believe how cheap they sell those things.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 05:43 PM

Is that grill brush that nice stainless one from Costco? If so I love mine and I can't believe how cheap they sell those things.

Those things hanging there be tongs :scratch: Made some tandoori style chicken tonight. Freaking excellent.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 06:01 PM

Drool. That MLPA looks very nice, Amigo... the grill tongs hanging in the background just complete the picture. Not next week, but the week after... MLPA with White Labs 01 will be brewed at the Mayfair Court Brewhouse and it will be good. Until then, I have to envy everyone else's. Cheers!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:12 PM

I have to work on getting a good pic of my gelatinized MLPA, it looks beautiful and clear now.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:04 PM

What was the verdict on using US-05 in MLPA? Did you adjust the mash temp at all? Compare it to WLP001

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:05 AM

What was the verdict on using US-05 in MLPA? Did you adjust the mash temp at all? Compare it to WLP001

I only tried it once and since I wasn't experienced with it, I didn't asjust the mash temp. It was slightly drier and a little more bland than White Labs 01. I realize WLP001 is a neutral yeast, but US05 had less yeast character to me. The beer came out just fine, but I prefer it with White Labs 01. Cheers.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 02:49 PM

Hi Ken, I live in Hammond, IN, so we are kinda using the same lake Michigan water, and I was wondering if you do any water adjustments. I really want to do you're MLPA and want to make sure I'm on the same track as you.thankstom


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