
Bottle cleaning
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:22 AM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:34 AM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:46 AM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:25 AM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:35 AM
+1Hot water with a healthy scoop of oxyclean will remove most labels. Most will slip right off after a good soak no effort required. Now wine bottles are a different story. Whatever the glue is that they use to stick those labels on is not nearly as soluble as beer bottle label glue.Even though I only bottle now when I need arises (not often) or for friends. I have found that submersing bottles in Oxyclean seems to do a pretty good job in removing labels. It softens up the label and removal of the adhesive is not too difficult either. Some labels will just peal off too. At times though I have just said heck with cleaning off the labels and just mark the beers on the bottle cap. Cleaning bottles on the outside is the worst part of bottling (for the most part)Hope that helps,Mike
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:44 AM
This is the only thing I can recommend, though I've never done it.Oxy clean doesn't work, PBW doesn't even work. That glue is way too difficult to get off. I've just given up trying to take those labels off and simply throw then in the recycling. It bothers me though because Two brother's brewing uses those plastic labels; so now I have to get rid of the bottles from a local place, and I've significantly slowed buying their beers since I can't reuse the labels. It's all good though, because Goose Island switched to pry-cap bottles. Now I'm just buying more GI!Goo Gone. Put a few drops on the adhesive, let it sit for a few minutes, scrape or wipe the adhesive off. wash the bottle.Jim
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:05 AM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:07 AM
My neighbor goes through Pacifico... I came home one day and saw 4 cases of empties sitting in the garage. Nice brown bottles with standard paper labels that slid right off after the oxy soak.This is the only thing I can recommend, though I've never done it.Oxy clean doesn't work, PBW doesn't even work. That glue is way too difficult to get off. I've just given up trying to take those labels off and simply throw then in the recycling. It bothers me though because Two brother's brewing uses those plastic labels; so now I have to get rid of the bottles from a local place, and I've significantly slowed buying their beers since I can't reuse the labels. It's all good though, because Goose Island switched to pry-cap bottles. Now I'm just buying more GI!
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:17 AM
I've found that some labels that won't come off any other way will float off when submerged in a mixture of 1 cup Windex to 5 gallons water for an hour or so.Bleach is another thing to try. Both bleach and ammonia rinse off quite easily, but both definitely need to be rinsed. Oh yeah, and the obligatory note: don't mix bleach and ammonia, that makes phosgene which is a poison gas used in WWI.This is the only thing I can recommend, though I've never done it.Oxy clean doesn't work, PBW doesn't even work. That glue is way too difficult to get off. I've just given up trying to take those labels off and simply throw then in the recycling. It bothers me though because Two brother's brewing uses those plastic labels; so now I have to get rid of the bottles from a local place, and I've significantly slowed buying their beers since I can't reuse the labels. It's all good though, because Goose Island switched to pry-cap bottles. Now I'm just buying more GI!
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:40 AM
I'm a chemistry dork so I have to clarify here. While it's possible you could create phosgene from bleach an ammonia it would take some pretty specialized circumstances. The most likely outcome of mixing the two would be creating chlorine gas which was used early on in WWI as a chemical weapon so I recommend against mixing the two all the same.[/chemistrydork]Bleach is another thing to try. Both bleach and ammonia rinse off quite easily, but both definitely need to be rinsed. Oh yeah, and the obligatory note: don't mix bleach and ammonia, that makes phosgene which is a poison gas used in WWI.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:34 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 03:14 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:09 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:12 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 06:38 PM
I've seen a few people post about having this issue. I use oxyclean free and have not. My bottles come out crystal clear. I wonder--do you think it's something with the water?I had Oxyclean leave a white powder residue on the bottles.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 06:52 PM
Something like that happens to me once. I do not know what caused the problem. As I was scrubbing each bottle, inside and out, for the second time, I swore to myself, "Never again, damn it, never!"The nickles and dimes I saved by using Oxyclean was a waste of my time.I know I am in the minority. Many people use Oxyclean and are happy with the results.You won't have to worry if you use PBW. That stuff is magic.I've seen a few people post about having this issue. I use oxyclean free and have not. My bottles come out crystal clear. I wonder--do you think it's something with the water?
Edited by zymot, 11 February 2011 - 06:57 PM.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 06:57 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:08 PM
I would have done the same.As I was scrubbing each bottle, inside and out, for the second time, I swore to myself, "Never again, damn it, never!"
#19
Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:01 PM
I agree that PBW is the best stuff to get labels off, but it won't work for this application. I've had plastic labeled bottled sit overnight in PBW and nothing happens to them. The OP's best bet is to try and remove the label in one piece, and try goo gone like jim said. Other than that, I don't know what will take the glue off, I've given up trying to clean those kinds of bottles.Hot water and some PBW (Professional Brewer Wash) by FiveStar Chemicals and an overnight soak is what you need. If that does not make the labels melt off, I throw the bottle away.Oxyclean is similar, but not the same. There are recipes with Oxyclean and something else (TSP?) and it is better, but not the same.Homebrewers like to crow about how cheap they get Oxyclean. I had Oxyclean leave a white powder residue on the bottles.I am a right tool for the job kind of guy. Oxyclean goes in my washing machine, PBW goes in my brewery.A 5 pound jar of PBW is not all that expensive. It works better and the savings in my time more than offsets the added expense. Besides, a dose of PBW is like 38 cents, if I save 75% with Oxyclean, that is only a 30 cents savings. 30 cents? I do not need the aggravation.

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:36 PM
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