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[Alpha Male]

This is the recipe is from Square One Brewery in STL. Thanks to John White for giving it up as he brews it. The only change I made was the yeast. 5 gallons: 8.25# Pilsen10oz. vienna2oz. carapils25 grams perle for 60 minutes14 grams perle for 10 minutes30 grams lemongrass for 15 minutes4.75 grams caramelized ginger for 15 minutesfermentis T-58 yeastmash at 152 for an hour18ibu's 1.047ogany neutral hop would be good, Candied or caramelized ginger found at a natural foods place (I use Good Earth in Edwardsville)Slice Ginger it increase surface area.Very light refreshing and delicate spicing. have fun Alpha

[LiverDance]

Thanks for this recipe it sounds great. I don't have access to T-58 dry yeast though so i'm looking for an alternative. The only belgium yeast my LHBS carries is 1214 could i use this or maybe just use a clean yeast like 1056? Any suggestions or experiences? Cheers,LD

[DaBearSox]

Made some of this a few months ago and have just started opening them up. Very very light and refreshing, I used the t-58 but fermented low so the yeast profile comes through very nicely without overpowering the rest. The lemon grass and ginger are very very faint, you can tell something is there but if you want it more pronounced i would at least double it. I know I used a little but more than the recipe suggests and cut up the ginger pieces for more surface area. Maybe with a little more age they will come through more.

[Michael]

Question about the hops. I want to make 10 gals, but if I double the hops IBUs are 30ish. Ideas?

[ncbeerbrewer]

If you are doubling this recipe or any recipe then your IBU's should stay the same. All the ingredients are increasing in the same proportion. If you just double the hops and not the grain then you would end up in the 30ish range. Does that help or am I missing something more on your question?Mike

[Michael]

That's what I thought. Normally I just double it all, but beer tools says Perle at 8.2% with 50g at 60m and 28g at 10m would yield 30.9IBU. Perhaps 8.2% isn't a real value.I dunno.Michael

[MAZ]

Perle @ 8.2% is realistic. I have a couple ounces at 8.1% in the freezer right now. The most likely situation is that the original recipe used Perle with a lower alpha rating. Just adjust according to what you have!Sounds like a great recipe. I love lemongrass.

[Daryl]

The only change I made was the yeast.

What was the original yeast it called for. Any idea on alpha acids on the hop additions?

[LiverDance]

I'm brewing this coming weekend and still looking for yeast suggestions , T-58 is not available. Help me

[MAZ]

Wyeast 3522 (Ardennes, which is supposedly Achouffe) would be a nice choice IMO.Otherwise I'd look in the Liquid Stupid thread to see the yeast choices there.

[Alpha Male]

I'm brewing this coming weekend and still looking for yeast suggestions , T-58 is not available. Help me

Something belgian would be fine. Maybe like a golden strong yeast or trippel.jeff

[Alpha Male]

What was the original yeast it called for. Any idea on alpha acids on the hop additions?

??? Dreweslu would know. PM himJeff

[drewseslu]

Pretty sure the orignal strain was WY3944, Witbier.

[LiverDance]

Thanks for the advice Jeff, i went with 1214 so we'll see what happens. Another question though, is the lemongrass fresh or dried? I ended up using dried, not sure if that'll make a difference or not. LD

[Daryl]

Pretty sure the orignal strain was WY3944, Witbier.

What is the white labs equvilent?

[MAZ]

What is the white labs equvilent?

Pretty sure it's WLP400 (Belgian Wit Ale)... both as supposedly the Hoegaarden/Celis strain.