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S-33 edme + warm temps = bananas


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#1 Hentai

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 12:30 AM

I wasnt planning on using it but I went with s-33 recently. Fermented at room temps, @70-73F, smells like a bucket of bananas!Not what I was expecting.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:43 AM

Doesn't surprise me too much. At those temps, I wouldn't be surprised if your beer is in the low 80s at high krausen.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 06:48 AM

I fermented warm hoping to get something more from the yeast. The description by Fermentis doesnt really help but Ive read at higher temps ester, and bubblegum / clove come through. Nothing about bananas.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:07 AM

if you want estery clove and peppery from a dry yeast use t-58s-33 will get a bit of banana at too warm temps, but I never let it get above 68F

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:48 AM

This happened to me when I used s33 and I decided to bottle condition and set aside. After about 6 months in the bottle I noticed the banana and spiciness dissipated quite a bit. I was glad I decided to set it aside rather than dump it.

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:04 PM

if you want estery clove and peppery from a dry yeast use t-58

This was going to be my first attempt with T-58, I thought we had it on hand but no. So I settled with S-33.Actually the T-58 arrived today, ordered it shortly after brew day.Do you like it? It was going to be a Biere de Garde and with the yeast cake saved for a Golden Strong..

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 05:51 PM

This was going to be my first attempt with T-58, I thought we had it on hand but no. So I settled with S-33.Actually the T-58 arrived today, ordered it shortly after brew day.Do you like it? It was going to be a Biere de Garde and with the yeast cake saved for a Golden Strong..

I have done a few brews with it, and I can honestly say it is distintly belgian, in it's charchter, the phenols are pretty pronounced in it. It is a solid workewr too, it will haul ass.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:01 PM

I fermented warm hoping to get something more from the yeast. The description by Fermentis doesnt really help but Ive read at higher temps ester, and bubblegum / clove come through. Nothing about bananas.

The banana note is an ester. Iso-amyl acetate.High temps will get you that.MolBasser

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 07:25 AM

MolBasser,does the ester dissipate over time?

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 07:37 AM

Not really.Other aromas will generate over time and aging depending on how much yeast is left in the beer that could mask it, but it will be banana-y over the legit lifetime of the beer.MolBasser


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