
Indio from Mexico...
#1
Posted 04 January 2010 - 07:06 PM
I threw something together (recipe-wise) to try to get a start.
Ken's stab at Indio
8 lbs American 2-row or Pilsner Malt
8 oz Crystal 120°L
maybe something like 2 oz of chocolate or 2 oz of black malt
mash low, maybe 148-149°
1 oz of something like Hallertau, Hersbrucker, Tradition, Tettnanger around 5 to 5.5% for 60 mins
White Labs 940 Mexican Lager yeast
OG: 1.048, FG: 1.012, IBU: 23, SRM: 12-14, ABV: 4.6%
#2
Posted 04 January 2010 - 08:46 PM
#3
Posted 05 January 2010 - 04:02 AM
dehusked/debittered black malt?So I guess I'm wondering how they got it dark without it being roasty.
#4
Posted 05 January 2010 - 10:03 AM
#5
Posted 05 January 2010 - 11:50 AM
Where did you get this Del Norte beer? Is it only sold locally? I mentioned this somewhere, but I really like beers in this style and it's a kind of mish-mosh of Vienna, American Dark Lager and some other things thrown in. Negra Modelo, Shiner Bock, this Indio I'm talking about, Victoria, Gila Monster Amber Lager (a Trader Joe's product) and a few others have gotten my attention for being satisfying, thirst-quenching and a beer that you do not tire of. Yummy stuff.They have that stuff called sinmar I think...it is used to color beers and not add any flavor...I know Denny has talked about using it before. I need to go to Mexico and get some of these underground lagers they sound so tasty...I had a Del Norte Manana amber lager a few weeks ago...I was blown away, its a Mexican style amber that has won some awards...I want a recipe for that.
#6
Posted 05 January 2010 - 11:53 AM
#7
Posted 06 January 2010 - 10:10 AM
I'm one of the owners and brewers at Del Norte Brewing Co. in Denver. Thanks for buying our beer! If you'll give me a call at the brewery (303-935-3223), we can set up a time when you can swing by the brewery for tastings and a tour. Since we're the only US brewery that does nothing but Mexican-style lagers, we always enjoy talking about Mexican beers in general. JackI randomly picked one up at a Liquor Mart here in denver...they had one fridge case for mixer sixers and I grabbed that one b/c I like amber lagers...I had never seen it before (or heard of the brewery) even though it is brewed in Colorado...probably a really small brewery but they have some accolades.
#8
Posted 06 January 2010 - 11:55 AM
Awesome! I love Denver I swear I find out about a new brewery around town everyday. Been doing the Ale thing for the last few years just getting into lagers, would love to come by and check out the brewery. Your Manana Lager was one of my pot-o-gold finds of 2009.I'm one of the owners and brewers at Del Norte Brewing Co. in Denver. Thanks for buying our beer! If you'll give me a call at the brewery (303-935-3223), we can set up a time when you can swing by the brewery for tastings and a tour. Since we're the only US brewery that does nothing but Mexican-style lagers, we always enjoy talking about Mexican beers in general. Jack
#9
Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:22 PM
Hi, Ken. I'm one of the owners and brewers at Del Norte Brewing Co. in Denver, and, unfortunately, our line of Mexican-style lagers is currently available only in Colorado and Wyoming. During 2010 we'll be expanding throughout the southwestern U.S., but we don't have any immediate plans to move into the Chicago area. That could change if the demand develops. Your recipe looks like it would produce a tasty beer. One suggestion I might offer if you want to clone Indio and avoid too much roasty flavor is to skip the black or chocolate malt and use more of a lighter crystal (maybe a C60 in the range of 10-15% of your grain bill). Indio isn't a very dark amber. If the beer isn't exactly what you're looking for, you can always adjust on the next batch. Good luck; I wish I were close enough to sample it.Where did you get this Del Norte beer? Is it only sold locally? I mentioned this somewhere, but I really like beers in this style and it's a kind of mish-mosh of Vienna, American Dark Lager and some other things thrown in. Negra Modelo, Shiner Bock, this Indio I'm talking about, Victoria, Gila Monster Amber Lager (a Trader Joe's product) and a few others have gotten my attention for being satisfying, thirst-quenching and a beer that you do not tire of. Yummy stuff.
#10
Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:59 PM
#11
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:14 PM
#12
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:16 PM
Ken, I am gonna try to go over there in the next few weeks and check them out. I could probably find some of there stuff around here and get some out to you.Oh hey, your site is very cool... love the music. Your stuff sounds like my kind of beer. I even picked up a Mañana t-shirt and signed the guestbook! Now I need to find a way for you to ship me a sampler! Cheers & good luck.
#13
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:24 PM
#14
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:29 PM
Should have Del Norte hook up with Rick Bayless and have them serve at his restaurant then maybe they can get some of it out in Chicago. The brewery's i miss the most that I can't get out here are Bell's and Two Brothers (grew up in Warrenville get back to the brew pub everytime I am home at my parents) Luckily some Goose Island stuff makes it out this way...I got a bomber of Bourbon County sittin in the fridge waiting for the perfect time to crack open. I'll keep in touch, and trust me the Mañana is spectacularDBS: If you could do that, that would be sweet. All of their beers sound good, but that Mañana sounds beautiful. If you have the chance to do that, let me know what you want from here and I'll send some stuff out your way. I have a mega-beer store within 5 minutes of me and they have a GIANT selection of beers. You're from this area, right? If there's anything you miss that you can't get there, please tell me. Cheers.
#15
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:37 PM
#16
Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:07 AM
#17
Posted 13 January 2010 - 07:49 PM
So I made my Victoria clone this morning (Hacienda Lager) and when this batch is done, I'm going to try to make a version of this Indio beer. It should go something like this...
Cantina Cerveza Oscura
7 lbs American 2-row or Pilsner Malt (haven't decided yet)
1 lb flaked corn
4 oz Crystal 120°L
2 oz debittered black malt
¾ oz Hallertau Mittelfruh 4.1% plus ½ oz German Hallertau 3.7% for 60 mins (5 AAU)
White Labs 940 Mexican Lager yeast
OG: 1.047, FG: 1.012, IBU: 22, SRM: 13, ABV: 4.5%

Sorry Jack... I stole your Cerveza Oscura!
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