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[chuck_d]

So I'm planning on throwing a series of parties and inviting a bunch of friends to go through the Siebel Institute's flavor kit. I'm curious if anyone has done flavor/sensory training before and what they used for their base beer. I'm thinking that I should get some American Light, such as Miller Lite, in cans not bottles. If anyone has experience with a specific product when doing this, I'd love to hear your input.

[Sidney Porter]

I did a presentation for the homebbrew club, I think I used Busch Light because it was the cheapest. I didn't have an actual kit but gathered the stuff to doctor the beers myself. I used bottles because I needed to get one light struck, I also needed to oxidize one opened it pumped some air into to it with a fish pump, resealed and left on my hot water heater for a couple of days. I also wanted to have everything prepped prior to the meeting so I opened the beers doctored them and resealed them.We have one coming up using the bjcp ket, but I have not scene itm nor am I doing the demo.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

So I'm planning on throwing a series of parties and inviting a bunch of friends to go through the Siebel Institute's flavor kit. I'm curious if anyone has done flavor/sensory training before and what they used for their base beer. I'm thinking that I should get some American Light, such as Miller Lite, in cans not bottles. If anyone has experience with a specific product when doing this, I'd love to hear your input.

How much do these flavor kits cost? This sounds like a great way to educate some folks.

[RommelMagic]

Miller Genuine Draft is the suggested beer for the flavor additives. Just remember to taste the beer prior to adding so you get a baseline.

[Stout_fan]

Our BJCP class used Miller Light. IIRCThe defects really showed up.The nice chap who put on the class had a 6 pack left and tried to give it away.Nobody wanted it.I think he took it home and used it to marinade chicken.

[drewseslu]

*sigh*That poor, poor chicken...

[chuck_d]

How much do these flavor kits cost? This sounds like a great way to educate some folks.

$160 - 24 Flavor "Standards"https://www.siebelin..._order_form.pdf

Edited by chuck_d, 16 April 2009 - 10:31 AM.

[japh]

*sigh*That poor, poor chicken...

[denny]

I just taught an off flavors class using Coors Light and it worked well for the purpose. If you don't want to spring fir a big time kit, the BJCP has instructions for doctoring using common things...https://www.bjcp.org/study.php#drbeer

[dagomike]

Most I've done used Coors.

[chuck_d]

I just taught an off flavors class using Coors Light and it worked well for the purpose. If you don't want to spring fir a big time kit, the BJCP has instructions for doctoring using common things...https://www.bjcp.org/study.php#drbeer

Good looks Denny. I don't mind springing for the kit, but I think I might supplement the kit with that list there for certain flavors. I'd have to spring for most everything on that list anyways (seriously, I don't even have vinegar in the house).

[denny]

Good looks Denny. I don't mind springing for the kit, but I think I might supplement the kit with that list there for certain flavors. I'd have to spring for most everything on that list anyways (seriously, I don't even have vinegar in the house).

Luckily (?), I had an acetaldehyde laden pils I'd brewed so I could add that in! All the stuff on that list is pretty inexpensive. MY LHBS even donated some of it for us.

[NWPines]

Luckily (?), I had an acetaldehyde laden pils I'd brewed so I could add that in! All the stuff on that list is pretty inexpensive. MY LHBS even donated some of it for us.

I thought that off flavor class worked pretty well Denny. And your apple Jolly Rancher Pils was oh so tasty. Don't forget the real gem though, the 30 year old beer we tasted... what was that again?Anyway Chuck, I think 24 off flavors would be too much for the palate to handle in one night. Might want to break that into a few sessions.

[denny]

I thought that off flavor class worked pretty well Denny. And your apple Jolly Rancher Pils was oh so tasty. Don't forget the real gem though, the 30 year old beer we tasted... what was that again?

Cartwright's, from the first microbrewery ever opened in Oregon. A 30 year old infected beer....

[chuck_d]

Anyway Chuck, I think 24 off flavors would be too much for the palate to handle in one night. Might want to break that into a few sessions.

Yeah, the plan is for 4 sessions of 6 flavors in each session. I was thinking maybe 3 session of 8 flavors, but those are the two schedules that make sense to me. If you do 6 flavors that might leave people thirsty for more so you can end the evening with a tasting of something nice. Like a specially aged homebrew or whatever to top off the evening. I have a bottle of '07 Utopias I've been cellaring so I might make that the beer to drink after the final session.

[NWPines]

Cartwright's, from the first microbrewery ever opened in Oregon. A 30 year old infected beer....

Ah, that's right! I was telling someone about it but couldn't for the life of me remember the name of the brewery (long before my time in OR).

[NWPines]

Yeah, the plan is for 4 sessions of 6 flavors in each session. I was thinking maybe 3 session of 8 flavors, but those are the two schedules that make sense to me. If you do 6 flavors that might leave people thirsty for more so you can end the evening with a tasting of something nice. Like a specially aged homebrew or whatever to top off the evening. I have a bottle of '07 Utopias I've been cellaring so I might make that the beer to drink after the final session.

4 sessions of 6 flavors sounds pretty doable. A whole string of off flavored samples in a row gets overwhelming pretty fast. Wrapping up with somethings tasty is a great idea. Let us know how it goes.