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#1 Brian72

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 09:45 AM

What’s the difference between the Photoshop that comes with the photography bundle for 9.99/mo and the Photoshop by itself for $20/mo?
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#2 BrewerGeorge

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 10:30 AM

The first one is for people who don't know how to use Photoshop.  Everything is guided wizards a lot like a photo "editing" app in a smartphone.  The second one is Photoshop.



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Posted 21 May 2020 - 09:37 AM

I thought the difference between the 10 and 20 one was storage capacity. 20gb vs 1 tb.

I think George is talking about Photoshop elements vs Photoshop?

Personally I use darktable for 90%. It is comparable to Lightroom. I use gimp for the other 10%. I have also used raw thearpee. They are all free and have a large enough user base that you can find video / instructions on line for anything I have ever needed to do. I would rather spend photography money on stuff rather than software

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 09:45 AM

I have been using gimp for months now. It is pretty powerful in the things you can do, but I always have to refer back to tutorials, it is just not an intuitive process.

Still using Rawtherapee, I need to spend some time in darktable, it seems to have become the goto for astrophotography. Those guys will spend $5k on telescope, ccd camera and ccd guiding scope, but will spend months trying open sourced processing.

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#5 BrewerGeorge

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 09:53 AM

Elements is gone.  I was describing the difference between Lightroom and Photoshop.

 

Just looking at their website, I don't understand the difference between the $20/month Photoshop only and the $10/month photography package that includes photoshop.



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Posted 21 May 2020 - 10:21 AM

Elements is gone. I was describing the difference between Lightroom and Photoshop.

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I have never used Lightroom but from what I have seen it is more robust than a phone app nor is it really that guided. It is used by professionals and enthusiasts

The big difference is apps like Lightroom, dark table and raw thearpee have work flow and organization tools. The edits also impact the entire photo.

Photoshop and gimp allow individual pixel edited. You can photo shop someone out or change the white balance on certain sections.

The phone types apps seem to have a number of preset filters / themes. Maybe a slider for brightness, crop and level.
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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:33 AM

I have photoshop elements now and it’s fine, I used to have a copy of photoshop CS. I want to be able to also create graphics for the web and also design for vinyl decals and such. I really wish Illustrator wasn’t so expensive.
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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:36 AM

I have photoshop elements now and it’s fine, I used to have a copy of photoshop CS. I want to be able to also create graphics for the web and also design for vinyl decals and such. I really wish Illustrator wasn’t so expensive.

Inkscape as an option?

 

https://inkscape.org/


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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:53 AM

Inkscape as an option?

https://inkscape.org/


I think I tried that once before and it was a no go on my Mac.
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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:55 AM

I have photoshop elements now and it’s fine, I used to have a copy of photoshop CS. I want to be able to also create graphics for the web and also design for vinyl decals and such. I really wish Illustrator wasn’t so expensive.

What about Publisher?



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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:59 AM

I think I tried that once before and it was a no go on my Mac.

 

Oh, that sucks.  I thought it worked with Macs.  


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Posted 21 May 2020 - 12:01 PM

I have photoshop elements now and it’s fine, I used to have a copy of photoshop CS. I want to be able to also create graphics for the web and also design for vinyl decals and such. I really wish Illustrator wasn’t so expensive.

I use Canva for a lot of simple things...shop designer uses the indesign, but I'm a simple man. Canva's free too.


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Posted 21 May 2020 - 12:06 PM

I have photoshop elements now and it’s fine, I used to have a copy of photoshop CS. I want to be able to also create graphics for the web and also design for vinyl decals and such. I really wish Illustrator wasn’t so expensive.

Free alternatives to illustrator
https://www.techrada...or-alternatives


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Posted 22 May 2020 - 08:05 AM

I have access to Adobe Creative Cloud for work, but for home use on my Macs I use Pixelmator as a Photoshop replacement, and Graphic as an Illustrator replacement. Neither are free, but they're not that expensive ($40 for Pixelmator and $30 for Graphic).

 

Pixelmator: https://www.pixelmator.com/mac/

Pixelmator Pro: https://www.pixelmator.com/pro/

 

Graphic: https://www.graphic.com

 

Troubling thing is the Pixelmator is being replaced by Pixelmator Pro, which I don't like. And Graphic, which was going gangbusters with regular, meaningful updates a few years ago, appears to be stagnating the last few years. A shame because I developed my electronics schematic diagram system in Graphic...

 

There is also Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer, which appear to be legit Photoshop and Illustrator replacements, too. They run about $50 each, but they are running 90-day free trial and half off normal price right now ($25 each). I've bought them, but I haven't learned them yet...

 

Affinity Software: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

Affinity Photo: https://affinity.ser...om/en-us/photo/

Affinity Designer: https://affinity.ser...en-us/designer/

 

They also make Affinity Publisher, if you need an InDesign replacement... I'm not a big user of that type of thing...


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Posted 22 May 2020 - 10:03 AM

I can make pictures darker and lighter.


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Posted 22 May 2020 - 10:19 AM

I can make pictures darker and lighter.


Why was your former profile pic so hard to make out then?

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 10:21 AM

Why was your former profile pic so hard to make out then?

Dont hate on muh confocal, brah.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:31 AM

What about Publisher?

for the love of all things holy, NO!

 

just NO!


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#19 Sidney Porter

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Posted Yesterday, 03:10 PM

for the love of all things holy, NO!

just NO!

publisher is fine to do some layout type stuff in a setting where your options are publisher or PowerPoint. Although I would not recommend it for a Photoshop, Lightroom or illustrator substitute
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Posted Today, 11:32 AM

There is also Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer, which appear to be legit Photoshop and Illustrator replacements, too. They run about $50 each, but they are running 90-day free trial and half off normal price right now ($25 each). I've bought them, but I haven't learned them yet...

 

Affinity Software: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

Affinity Photo: https://affinity.ser...om/en-us/photo/

Affinity Designer: https://affinity.ser...en-us/designer/

 

They also make Affinity Publisher, if you need an InDesign replacement... I'm not a big user of that type of thing...

I use Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer... both work very well and are worth the $50 each. Photo also reads PS files and Designer reads Illustrator files. The one thing that holds me back from Affinity Publisher is that it does NOT read InDesign files.


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