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#1 Zsasz

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 06:21 AM

Just to not clog up Ken's thread too much I figured I'd make a new one.  My existing router is a linksys and these are the instructions on setting it up as an "access point":

 

https://www.linksys....ticleNum=143751

 

So this router calls it "bridge mode" and not "access point".  In the other thread someone said if it is AP mode you make the SSIDs the same on the main router and the AP but in this case it says to make them different.

 

The wireless network name (SSID) for each router must be different to avoid conflict for devices which will connect to the wireless network.  For instructions on how to set up the wireless network of each router, click here.

 

So what is this "bridge mode"?  It seems like I'm just adding an additional network and not an AP but the article says at the top that is not what I'm doing.


Final diagram of the setup:

 

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Edited by Zsasz, 09 November 2019 - 06:30 AM.

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#2 LowcountryBrewer

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 06:57 AM

With bridge mode, you are basically extending your wired network via wireless.

As an example, I used to have an office in a detached garage behind our house.  Instead of running wire, I set up an old router as a wireless bridge to the desktop in that office.  My wifi wasn't extended.

 

Some routers can be used as a repeater.  In my example, had I used repeater mode, the router in my detached office could be wired to my desktop AND I could have setup a second SSID for any wireless clients out there.


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#3 Zsasz

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:04 AM

With bridge mode, you are basically extending your wired network via wireless.

As an example, I used to have an office in a detached garage behind our house.  Instead of running wire, I set up an old router as a wireless bridge to the desktop in that office.  My wifi wasn't extended.

 

Some routers can be used as a repeater.  In my example, had I used repeater mode, the router in my detached office could be wired to my desktop AND I could have setup a second SSID for any wireless clients out there.

 

see the diagram above - the routers are hardwired together.  maybe there isn't agreement on what "bridge mode" means??


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:08 AM

see the diagram above - the routers are hardwired together. maybe there isn't agreement on what "bridge mode" means??

I believe in that example, you don’t have access to control the main router and want to set up a sub net.
What are you trying to do?
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#5 Zsasz

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:17 AM

I believe in that example, you don’t have access to control the main router and want to set up a sub net.
What are you trying to do?

 

Use my soon to be old router to increase the range of my wifi network.  I can hardwire the two routers together (the cat5 is already run) so they are on opposite ends of my house on the first floor.


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:25 AM

Ok. Based on your link, you’re thinking correctly. They seem to use bridge and access point as the same. Access point is a better description.
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 08:03 AM

I always thought “bridge mode”was to change the IP address in the ISP’s router so you can “bridge” from using their shitty router to using your own personal device.. turning their device into a modem instead of a modem/router?
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 08:17 AM

I always thought “bridge mode”was to change the IP address in the ISP’s router so you can “bridge” from using their shitty router to using your own personal device.. turning their device into a modem instead of a modem/router?

Yeah, I tend to think bridge means bypass.
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 09:01 AM

Yup
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 09:32 AM

All it is doing is turning the device into a switch that is uplinked into the main router's internal network. The ports and WIFI will function as if they were plugged directly into the main router, and the addressing (subnet) will be the same.

 

It appears that enabling "bridge" mode is disabling DHCP (auto IP address assignment) and network address translation and routing on the interface designated for the internet. This effectively turns the internet port into a switch port, which is uplinked into the main router's internal network.


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 09:37 AM

so do I need to use a diff SSID and password for the router in "bridge mode"?


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 09:49 AM

It would be a good idea to have separate SSIDs if the routers are close enough together that the wireless coverage touches or overlaps. The reason is that if they share the same SSID and password, the clients will "stick" to the AP they last connected to. You can then end up in a situation where the client is attempting to reach a far AP while there is another close by.


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 10:56 AM

so do I need to use a diff SSID and password for the router in "bridge mode"?


Only if you want to
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:03 PM

cool.  thanks for the advice guys.  I think I'm going to see if I can get a hot deal on black friday (unless I find something soon).


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:27 PM

actually this deal seems pretty good.  tri-band!!!!!!

 

https://www.amazon.c...tom-tracking-20


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:35 PM

maybe slightly better for a little less?

 

https://www.amazon.c...la-757058987989


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:53 PM

comparing specs on these things is annoying...

 

why does the AC2300 have a faster processor and more ram than the AC2600 but the AC2600 is capable of "faster" speeds?


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 06:50 PM

comparing specs on these things is annoying...

 

why does the AC2300 have a faster processor and more ram than the AC2600 but the AC2600 is capable of "faster" speeds?

which one has more channels?


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 06:54 PM

which one has more channels?


I thought the same.
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 06:59 PM

I thought the same.

more 5 ghz bandwidth? just guessing


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