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#1 Brian72

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:40 AM

Condenser or dynamic?

I want to mic my guitar cab and record that way through my interface into my Mac. Might also get used for vocal stuff as well, maybe but right now I want to isolate my cab and record that. So which mic?
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#2 TonyBrown

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:47 AM

https://ehomerecordi...ar-microphones/


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:48 AM

SM57 is hard to beat for recording an amp. 

https://www.sweetwat...ment-microphone

 

I don't have one, but it'll be my next mic purchase. Probably as a drum kit . I have a cheap dynamic and a pretty nice condenser that came with my AI. I've recorded with both and they both seem fine to me. 

 

ETA - where there is a difference, at least to my ears, is recording an acoustic in front of the soundhole. The condenser sounded a good bit better to me.


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 12:13 PM

Ribbon mics are often used for guitar cabs

SM57 is a decent choice as well. Dynamic mics won’t be as loud going into your preamp

Edited by Howie, 16 May 2019 - 12:13 PM.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:37 PM

Dynamic.
SM57 or if you can afford an MD421.

Ribbons are cool, but finicky until you spend big money.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 07:07 PM

Dynamic.
SM57 or if you can afford an MD421.

Ribbons are cool, but finicky until you spend big money.


How about pulling double duty as a vocal mic?
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:31 PM

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:35 PM

SM57 has been around forever. There is a reason for that. It is a trusty good all around mic. You can count on the 57 & 58 mics.

For the price of a 57, it is hard to ignore. If your budget allows, the Sennheisers are a nice upgrade.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:38 PM

How about pulling double duty as a vocal mic?


For vocals, a condenser is going to sound much better, but also be much more susceptible to picking up “the room.”

Meaning if your room isn’t great, you’re going to hear a lot of reflections and get comb filtering.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 04:27 AM

How about pulling double duty as a vocal mic?


Of the two I mentioned, the 421 is better as a vocal mic. Certainly more spendy, though. 57 doesn't have much high end and not much low end. Perfect for mids laden guitar, but not great for vocals.

How about pulling double duty as a vocal mic?


Of the two I mentioned, the 421 is better as a vocal mic. Certainly more spendy, though. 57 doesn't have much high end and not much low end. Perfect for mids laden guitar, but not great for vocals.
Is there an echo in here?
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 04:57 AM

sm57 was considered the standard "if you only have one mic" for a studio when I was taking a studio production / recording class in college. I don't do a-lot with it but I have one and its a good all around mic that can do everything. Its also pretty tank like and reliable. I have one and I've not had any complaints when I briefly flirted with being in a band other than having to eat it for vocals.

 

But yeah what everyone else said, it depends on how important perfect vocals are. 


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Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:01 AM

Cool guys thanks. I’ve always used Sennheiser so I’ll look there.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:40 AM

There is a clean looking 421 on eBay right now for cheap. I bet Reverb has several, too.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:08 AM

Oh I’ll probably go with another e835. They’ve always been good to me..
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:24 AM

Oh I’ll probably go with another e835. They’ve always been good to me..


That is my vocal mic that I use at every gig

For recording vocals, I have a blue baby bottle
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:46 AM

That is my vocal mic that I use at every gig

For recording vocals, I have a blue baby bottle


They are great mics. I had 3 when I was playing out. I for my amp, one for vocals and a spare just in case but I never needed it.
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 05:26 AM

I have a couple of e835s. I used an SM58 for a long time, but it seems like the 835 has more clarity and less proximity effect

For my guitar cab I use a Shure Beta 57A
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 03:05 PM

Pfft! Telefunken U47!!!

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Truth

 

But huge money

 

I say use a 57 and use Reaper as your DAW.....

 

Also I dont mike an amp..

 

I use Fortin Nameless guitar suite and Scuffum S-Gear as my amp models.......

 

Way better then miking an amp.........Killer sounds with free trials........

 

I bought both....

 

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 04:28 PM

I saw a really cool tutorial on YouTube (can’t find it now, dammit) where this guy learned from an engineer who uses 2 mics and a 2x12 cab for recording hard rock and metal guitar tracks. A sm57 in front of one speaker and a Sennheiser flat mic on the other run through a cheapo $40 Behring mixer then into the interface. One is the treble mic and the other the bass mic. They then made a tent around the speaker cab with moving blankets to completely isolate it. Sounded really fecking tight.
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:55 AM

I saw a really cool tutorial on YouTube (can’t find it now, dammit) where this guy learned from an engineer who uses 2 mics and a 2x12 cab for recording hard rock and metal guitar tracks. A sm57 in front of one speaker and a Sennheiser flat mic on the other run through a cheapo $40 Behring mixer then into the interface. One is the treble mic and the other the bass mic. They then made a tent around the speaker cab with moving blankets to completely isolate it. Sounded really fecking tight.


I know that recording engineer Vance Powell said he used two mics on a guitar cab, one of which is always a SM57. I can’t remember now if he uses a condenser or ribbon for the other
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