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#1 SugarTits

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:11 AM

Mico would benefit from it, but I don't like how abused it will become.

https://www.google.c...core/index.html
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#2 Brownbeard

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:12 AM

Mico would benefit from it, but I don't like how abused it will become.

https://www.google.c...core/index.html

How would he benefit?  


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:19 AM

How would he benefit?


It recognizes under represented ethnicities. A federally recognized Indian will receive higher consideration. I really don't like that only the university is allowed to see the adversity score. It should be a transparent score.
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#4 Sidney Porter

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:24 AM

I don't know if Mico would benefit. It sounds like it is based upon income / school. I assume if you go to a poor underperforming school it gets flagged and they get this factor. It does t look to be race based.

Does a 1300 from a kid in a poor underperforming school look better than the same school from a student from a high academic wealthy school? I would argue the poor kid has a higher ceiling and may be a better bet.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:26 AM

Well, this just throws any sort of standardization right out the window. Forget actual knowledge and stuff.

Edited by AspenLeif, 16 May 2019 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:27 AM

It recognizes under represented ethnicities. A federally recognized Indian will receive higher consideration. I really don't like that only the university is allowed to see the adversity score. It should be a transparent score.

do you have the 15 factors? The article didn't list them and I could not read the wsj link

Well, this just throws any sort of standardization right out the window. Forget actual knowledge and stuff.

it isn't added to the actual score
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#7 Brownbeard

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:31 AM

do you have the 15 factors? The article didn't list them and I could not read the wsj link
it isn't added to the actual score

The article I read said specifically that race was not a factor.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:41 AM

do you have the 15 factors? The article didn't list them and I could not read the wsj link
it isn't added to the actual score


I searched to see if it effects Native Americans. Several articles contain the phrase under represented ethnicities. I have not seen the black and white 15 considerations. I also don't like that college admissions do not share the score.
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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:43 AM

So many degrees now are just another form of Errybody gets a Trophy. 


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#10 codemonkey

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:44 AM

Privilege is making good decisions for generations. Funny how we're starting to punish that.


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#11 Mexas Joe

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:52 AM

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#12 Trub L

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:58 AM

Privilege is making good decisions for generations. Funny how we're starting to punish that.

They used to call it evolution.
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#13 Buzz Buzzard

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:03 AM

So before filling the paperwork out, a wealthy family can buy in a advantageous area, claim whatever ethnicity they want to and bam profit.
Middle class families taking it in the shorts again.
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#14 Brownbeard

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:05 AM

So before filling the paperwork out, a wealthy family can buy in a advantageous area, claim whatever ethnicity they want to and bam profit.
Middle class families taking it in the shorts again.

Except ethnicity is not one of the 15 factors. 


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:06 AM

So before filling the paperwork out, a wealthy family can buy in a advantageous area, claim whatever ethnicity they want to and bam profit.
Middle class families taking it in the shorts again.

 

It's funny you say that, we had a discussion on the local FB group when a mom from another school was complaining about her son not making top 10% in his school and she was thinking about transferring him to my daughters school so he could be top of his class and have a better shot at scholarship dollars based on his class ranking. 


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:21 AM

I have no problems with colleges considering things that are highlighted here. The ivies have a pretty long history of discriminating in favor of applicants whose parents attended. About a third of Princeton students have parents (mostly fathers) who graduated from Princeton. The legacies are admitted at a higher rate than similarly performing students whose parents didn't attend. The boost is similar to that applied to students of minority status. Looking at other factors is useful and might improve opportunities for bright students who are capable, but don't have that legacy.

 

I don't immediately understand the need for the SAT to do this, except to perhaps do/standardize the work that college admissions boards are currently doing.


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:28 AM

Except ethnicity is not one of the 15 factors. 

sure, that's handled by the school's own admission policies.


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:29 AM

I am leery of any prejudice for or against an individual based on any thing other than that individuals actual merit.
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#19 Brownbeard

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:29 AM

sure, that's handled by the school's own admission policies.

OK.  But that has nothing to do with this topic.  As was said, schools do the same for legacy students.  They also do it for big donors.  


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Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:30 AM

It devalues everyone.
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