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#1 Buzz Buzzard

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:32 AM

An old friend of mine posts on Facebook "stage 4 liver failure"  and goes silent.  Nothing not a word since.

He is a serious alcoholic.  SERIOUS.

Former army paratrooper with back damage from it.  Typical story, gets a medical discharge, hooked on pain meds and booze.

Thing was he was wildly brilliant and a really decent human being everyone loves.

He just has drank himself, well to this point.

 

At stage 4 I gather this dude is toast no?

 

Sends some vibes to the universe for my friend if you would, he has a younger daughter and a nice wife.

I am afraid he got a hard hand to play out of life.

 

 


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 06:08 AM

Unless it has changed, stage 4 means the cancer has spread through other areas of the body. Treatable in some situations, but major organs is bad bad bad.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:31 AM

Looks like a 50% 1 year mortality rate. Vibes
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:09 AM

A co-owner at one of my customers had stage 4 lung cancer.  The doctors gave him 6 months and he hung around for 3 years.  Not sure if those were quality years but he lasted longer than they said he would.  Stage 4 just sounds bad.  Vibes to you and to him.  



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:12 AM

As written this is liver cirrhosis, not cancer.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:14 AM

A co-owner at one of my customers had stage 4 lung cancer.  The doctors gave him 6 months and he hung around for 3 years.  Not sure if those were quality years but he lasted longer than they said he would.  Stage 4 just sounds bad.  Vibes to you and to him.  

FIL was diagnosed with skin cancer and docs gave him 6 months also, he hung on for about 7.5-8yrs, the last year was pretty rough.

 

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:18 AM

I kinda separated myself from him and the destructive behavior a while back. I am regretting that now on some levels.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:19 AM

As written this is liver cirrhosis, not cancer.

Oh yeah, good point.  



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:37 AM

As written this is liver cirrhosis, not cancer.


Ahh do they have stages like cancer?
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:37 AM

I kinda separated myself from him and the destructive behavior a while back. I am regretting that now on some levels.

sadly, most times bad influences win out over good influences.  you probably did the right thing by staying away after some point.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 09:03 AM

A co-owner at one of my customers had stage 4 lung cancer.  The doctors gave him 6 months and he hung around for 3 years.  Not sure if those were quality years but he lasted longer than they said he would.  Stage 4 just sounds bad.  Vibes to you and to him.  

Depends greatly on how early the diagnosis is rendered and what treatment modalities the patient chooses.  My father was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in May and died the end of July.  We suspected the condition had existed for at least a year prior based on how easily he got winded doing the simplest things.  He declined treatment citing the misery his friends endured with chemo. 


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#12 Buzz Buzzard

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 09:06 AM

He's hospitalized now is all I know yet today.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:52 AM

He's hospitalized now is all I know yet today.

Are you going to go see him?  Assuming in the same locale?


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:58 AM

No personal friend matches for a partial transplant? Or would his heavy drinking make people say no?
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 11:23 AM

No personal friend matches for a partial transplant? Or would his heavy drinking make people say no?

In the normal course of events, an individual with cirrhosis would be last on the list because the damage is self-induced and the transplant process carries a higher risk and lower chance for success.  Unless your name is Mickey Mantle.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 11:35 AM

I have messaged his aunt and wife. If he is concious I will go visit. I'm not sure what I'll say just yet, but for my own sake I will.
Transplants, I just have no knowledge about that yet.
Mine certainly is high mileage.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:06 PM

I have messaged his aunt and wife. If he is concious I will go visit. I'm not sure what I'll say just yet, but for my own sake I will.
Transplants, I just have no knowledge about that yet.
Mine certainly is high mileage.

Mine has so many miles it boards the plane before the 90 year old woman in a wheel chair with young children who served in four world wars.  


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:24 PM

In the normal course of events, an individual with cirrhosis would be last on the list because the damage is self-induced and the transplant process carries a higher risk and lower chance for success. Unless your name is Mickey Mantle.

That's why I ask about friends/family instead of "the list". I'd give part of my liver to friend even if it meant I wasn't sure they would stop drinking.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:25 PM

Vibes. I haven't reached stage 1 yet but sometimes I worry. :covreyes:
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Posted 08 March 2019 - 07:55 AM

Well Andrew passed away last night.

All the guys from my old crew were pinging me to talk about it.  I was not ready to do so.

 

At least his suffering is over.  He leaves behind a young wife and 15yo daughter.

I suspect his mason brothers will ensure they have all they need, but Andrew was not a man of any wealth.

 

I'm quite sad today.


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