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#321 Sidney Porter

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Posted Yesterday, 06:19 PM

When was the vote the Senate cast for this budget? Before or after election day?

after, mid December

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#322 the_stain

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Posted Yesterday, 07:11 PM

I think you're hanging too much hope on this "veto proof majority. "


There's an easy way to find out!
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#323 dondewey

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Posted Yesterday, 07:16 PM

I'm going to get whiplash up in here with all the reversals of position about when Congress should and should not vote.


It's pretty easy. If RBG dies late this year/early next, mitch will hold off on any confirmations because the people need to have their voice heard.
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#324 miccullen

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Posted Yesterday, 07:47 PM

couldn't we save like $3B if we just hired undocumented laborers?


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#325 Trub L

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Posted Yesterday, 07:50 PM

couldn't we save like $3B if we just hired undocumented laborers?

That's fine for one side of it, anyway.
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#326 badogg

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Posted Yesterday, 07:55 PM

8be been told before that number in the 5b range are spit in a bucket in regards to the federal budget. So why now is 5b a huge deal? If he'll never get the land, let him have the 5b that'll never get spent. Both sides are fecking the people dependent on the system.
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#327 Julius H Gardetto

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Posted Yesterday, 08:21 PM

You imagine being a deployed coast guard guy right now, with wife and kids at home not getting a paycheck?
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#328 orudis

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Posted Yesterday, 08:33 PM

The Senate's vote was right before the shutdown. Mitch McConnell wouldn't have allowed it on the floor if he didn't have solid indication that Trump was on board.  I believe the Senate vote was unanimous, or nearly so. Certainly it was a veto-proof majority.  Trump and his GOP enablers had total control for two years and couldn't be bothered to fund this retard monument.    


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#329 Trub L

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Posted Yesterday, 08:40 PM

Feckin' smooth brain geniuses!
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#330 orudis

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Posted Yesterday, 08:45 PM

And, really early in the Trump administration, the House and Senate passed Russia sanctions legislation that Trump was opposed to, and he didn't veto.  Seems sort of weird to advocate for an impotent congress that will only vote if it "knows" Trump will sign off on.  They are an independent branch of government!  


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Posted Yesterday, 08:49 PM

Independent, not ignorant or incapable of communication. A subtle distinction I'm sure.
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#332 orudis

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Posted Yesterday, 09:04 PM

Independent, not ignorant or incapable of communication. A subtle distinction I'm sure.

 

Well, the *only* way a legislature communicates, or even acts, is by voting.  Whether on bills, motions, resolutions, etc.  A difficult concept, I'm sure.  :P      


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Posted Yesterday, 09:48 PM

Actually, legend has it they sometimes use the telephone. Clever smooth brains, they are!
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Posted Yesterday, 09:53 PM

a different angle on the shutdown.  https://www.american...tdown_trap.html

 

personally i don't think trump is smart enough to do this, however, I can't completely rule it out either. 


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Posted Yesterday, 10:00 PM

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Posted Today, 03:00 AM

That's pretty awesome


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Posted Today, 03:25 AM

a different angle on the shutdown.  https://www.american...tdown_trap.html

 

personally i don't think trump is smart enough to do this, however, I can't completely rule it out either. 

I think he's smart enough to do something like that, but i don't know if it would be his primary focus.  It'd be more of a retroactive stroke of genius. Or, something to drive people to the table at the 11th hour.


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