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Drove the coastal roads from Pensacola to Perry Florida today.


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#1 Buzz Buzzard

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:12 PM

I'll have pics and vids soon.
We are still 3.5 hours north of home.
Man this year's hurricane damage around Mexico beach was insane.
Just piles of garbage where once people lived.
Mile after mile of broken trees and crap.

Around apalachicola the gulf storms just ate sections of road.
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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:22 PM

I'd like to see those pics.  I have driven from Pensacola west to Gulf Shores and east to PCB.  I like that whole area.  I know that a lot of it is considered 'tourist infrastructure' so my hope is that there will be effort to get it cleaned up and restored.  



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:45 AM

A friend of mine and I took a couple of truck loads of bottled water down to mexico beach after the storm.  Most of those people will never be able to afford to rebuild.  The unfortunate reality is that once infrastructure is restored, which is likely to take years, it will morph from a small, quite Gulfside town to condo canyons.  Military says they will rebuild Tyndall but that will take forever. 


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Posted 27 December 2018 - 08:11 AM

Can they build condos to withstand a hurricane? Many of the houses on pilings did not look well built.
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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:00 AM

It looked like an old ww2 bombed out city.
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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:03 AM

Can they build condos to withstand a hurricane? Many of the houses on pilings did not look well built.


Yes. Has to be steel reinforced concrete structure, walls and pillars. One house built like that on mexico beach survived.
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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:11 AM

Yes. Has to be steel reinforced concrete structure, walls and pillars. One house built like that on mexico beach survived.

Is it crazy expensive... like cost-prohibitive?



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:12 AM

Is it crazy expensive... like cost-prohibitive?

It is not cheap that is for sure.

 

https://www.nytimes....each-house.html

 

 

 

Mr. King wouldn’t say how much he and Dr. Lackey spent to fortify the beachside home, which public records show has been assessed for tax purposes at a value of $400,000. Their architect, Charles A. Gaskin, said that building a house the way they did roughly doubles the cost per square foot, compared with ordinary building practices.

 

I bet it was more than double in reality but that is just a guess.


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Posted 27 December 2018 - 10:21 AM

Can they build condos to withstand a hurricane? Many of the houses on pilings did not look well built.

For starters they'd have to build to the standards imposed on south Florida after Andrew, and that's still no guarantee.  There's also some calculation that for every X-many feet above sea level you build, the wind speed accelerates by X-many mph.  Given that Michael made landfall as a cat 4 verging on cat five, I can't imagine anything high-rise surviving a storm like that.


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Posted 27 December 2018 - 10:24 AM

It is not cheap that is for sure.

 

https://www.nytimes....each-house.html

 

 

I bet it was more than double in reality but that is just a guess.

 

Yeah, considering the location and permitting I wouldn't balk at $800k in the panhandle for construction costs. Probably another $500k just for the lot on the beach.

 

If it were me and I was building on the West coast here in FL, I'd budget at least $1.5M for a hurricane proof house and lot.


For starters they'd have to build to the standards imposed on south Florida after Andrew, and that's still no guarantee.  There's also some calculation that for every X-many feet above sea level you build, the wind speed accelerates by X-many mph.  Given that Michael made landfall as a cat 4 verging on cat five, I can't imagine anything high-rise surviving a storm like that.

 

The house was designed for 250 mph winds. New construction high rise condos probably have to go to near that too considering the possible loss of life factor.


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 08:31 AM

Sorry so long to post. Having editing issues.
The sound is terrible and our narration was clearly tired people yammering.

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